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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: keith on February 12, 2020, 04:47:04 PM
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Standard bullseye vase, fully marked, not mine :'( not seen this cut pattern before, has anyone ? ;D ;D
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choice piece Keith - someone's lucky, and nope, have to say I've not seen it before. It looks as though it might burn the curtains down, too ;)
This stylized frond/ear of wheat/fern looks to have something in common with other cut motifs from the '40s/50s - Stuart 'Woodchester', for example.
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How tall is it Keith? They look like feathers to me.
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Just under 8 inches ;D
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Now it's mine ! ;D ;D
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I can see greenish glows around edges - Uranium? :)
The cutting really fits well around the bullseyes - and it reminds me a bit of Clyne Farquarson's corn-y stuff.
I was determined not to bring the tone down when I started off. Sorry. :-[
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You didn't and yes it is, just a bit ! :o ;D ;D
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Gorgeous! ;D
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whenever I see that picture of Farquarson sitting on the park bench with his sister, I always seem to need a second look just to make sure which one is the sister. According to Ivo, cutting/grinding into u. glass is a definitely a no no, but they may not have worried so much back in the 50s.
Irene Stevens did an almost identical frond for W.C., but it was straight and lifeless, unlike these which look to articulate. Well you're lucky Keith, it's a gorgeous piece - congrats.
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Yes, I've heard that cutting uranium glass is not the healthiest of things to do :o ;D ;D
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Under the impression if English and uranium glass then far more likely to be 1930s or earlier rather than 1950s or later. How often do cut patterns appear on Bullseye of any type? Can't remember seeing one before.
Grinding or cutting uranium is potentially risky, last thing you need in your lungs is uranium dust...
John
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According to Hajdamach, this could be Webb's "Gay glass".
The bullseye pattern is part of this, although the pics illustrated in the old advert photographed only shows bullseye in Evergreen, the blurb says Old English Bullseye was made in all colours.
I think you may have a piece of Sunshine Amber, and it would be from the '30s.
It's kind of hard to tell from your pics, Keith because Bullseye is much thicker than the other patterns. I'm used to seeing finely blown Sunshine Amber, not thickly blown stuff.
But something in your vase "sings" to me.
Perhaps it was the green hints, perhaps it's the actual sunniness of the Sunshine Amber?
Or just a general shrieking of top quality? ;D
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those who suggest the 1930s may well be correct - have to say my thoughts on date may lacked book corroboration and I took to guessing and memory, which unreliable - in fact I couldn't find the Sunshine Amber and Gay glass page in Hajdamach for love nor money when I was looking last evening. In truth my thoughts were swayed by the fact that Irene Stevens take on this motif, called 'Wheat-ear' was a 1950s invention for W.C., although obviously Kny's 'Ellesmere' and 'Woodchester' go back much further in date.
Perhaps Keith can tell us the date range for T.W's 'Bull's Eye' ;) I've never seen Bull's Eye with any sort of cut or engraved decoration either - I think this is probably quite a rare piece.
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I had to flick through the tome, looking for the advert - knowing it's at the bottom of a right hand page. The index is useless.
Page 141. The caption undeneath says 1933 for Gay Glass.
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Just for John, here's a bulleye 'lily pattern ;D ;D
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Nice one Keith, I am all a quiver!
Webb did change their mark from time to time, scroll down for a bunch here:
http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/markt-z.htm#W
Even if the dates are not 100% accurate the variations of mark give a strong clue.
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I thought it was archers that did it with a quiver ;)
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Both have the 35-49 mark.
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Them too Paul. ;D
Should have guessed that you were hiding two more up your sleeves Keith!
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Keith, is the actual colour of the glass correct for Sunshine Amber?
Getting away from it's uranium content, is there the neccessary "rosy glow" present?
Do we know when folk stopped cutting or etching Uranium glass because of the safety elfs?
Wiki says availability of Uranium was severely curtailled during the wars ~ '40
The mark being from '35 on, Gay Glass being introduced in '33, suggests to me this might be from the earlier end.
I don't know when they stopped making Gay Glass. The only info. I can find is in the photo of the catalogue page reproduced.
There seems to be nothing in the text.
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They all look fine for Sunshine Amber to me
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I'd go with what Christine says ! ;D ;D looked at the marks on the ones I have all have the 35-49 mark apart from an amethyst and a green one with no marks at all ! couple more pic's for John ;D ;D
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Christine has an Evergreen Bullseye bowl and a vase.
I suspect your green waterlily is Spring green, and the wavy vase, Evergreen, Keith?
(very confusing, given spring greens are very dark)
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=2294
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=2534
mark on base of bowl
http://lustrousstone.co.uk/cpg/displayimage.php?pid=2535
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Never could figure out which was which ::) have an amber bullseye bowl like the first image and yes that's the mark ;D ;D