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Title: possible Henry Greener first mark on salt.
Post by: Paul S. on March 05, 2020, 12:30:56 PM

The trade mark showing inside this salt looks to be the first Henry Greener mark in sue c. 1875 - 1885 - the lion isn't carrying the halberd axe.
Does this sound about right, and do people know if such a salt shape is on the Board's archive  -  I couldn't see it in a quick look.
It's something like 3.5 inches long.                Sorry about the picture of the mark  -  too much talc on the glass.

Title: Re: possible Henry Greener first mark on salt.
Post by: agincourt17 on March 06, 2020, 09:49:59 AM

The salt is certainly an unregistered Henry Greener design, and the trademark is indeed the 1st lion TM.

Here are a couple of photos of an example in purple marbled glass for comparison.

So far I have reference photos of about 40 unregistered Henry Greener patterns (many of which have come from Mike) but I haven't put any of them on the GMB databases so far as I was trying to build a reasonable personal archive first.

BTW, the pattern number 025 referenced in the photos is purely my own reference number and not an 'official' Henry  Greener pattern number.

If there sufficient interest, I will ask Anne to set up a new  category for Unregistered Henry Greener (and Greener & Co.) designs in the GMB databases.

Fred.

Title: Re: possible Henry Greener first mark on salt.
Post by: Paul S. on March 06, 2020, 01:17:57 PM

sincere thanks as always Fred.               This was the last of my three pressed pieces that came from a charity outlet earlier in the week, and you guys have come up trumps on all of them.

My opinion is that you already have sufficient data and pix for your Greener archive to find a permanent place on the GMB database, so hope Anne is watching and taking note, and wish you success with your request for an entirely new category for these pieces, which will be very much deserved :)

Title: Re: possible Henry Greener first mark on salt.
Post by: Anne on March 06, 2020, 11:35:17 PM

New album gladly set up for you here Fred http://www.yobunny.org.uk/glassgallery/thumbnails.php?album=1031. 

By the way, do you have a copy of the Pressed Glass Collectors Club's wee booklet on Greener's unregistered designs?

Title: Re: possible Henry Greener first mark on salt.
Post by: agincourt17 on March 07, 2020, 11:20:34 AM

Anne, thank you very much for setting up the new Glassgallery album of unregistered Henry Greener (and Greener & Co) patterns [album 019]. I will try and make a start on adding photos this weekend.

The only PGCC booklet I have specifically on Greener designs is "From Flint Glass to Art Glass - the History of Greener & Co. from 1858 to the Present Day" but I do have PGCC's "A Collectors Guide to Open Glass Salts... ".