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Title: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: keith on May 16, 2020, 01:24:25 PM
6.5 inches tall, 3 part mould, plenty of wear, glows a treat  ;D ;D, think it's a rummer  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 16, 2020, 02:20:35 PM
Agreed, a rummer.  ;D
But I imagine you could put celery in it, if you wanted to.
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: Paul S. on May 16, 2020, 04:30:52 PM
sorry, but I'm not convinced :) -  looking in Tim Mills book, there is a single example only with an everted bowl rim, in an ovoid shape, which Tim dates to c. 1800 - long before u. glass was in general manufacture  -  neither are there any examples from any date in uranium in his book.     
To my eyes this is a large wine glass Keith.
Rummers do occur in plain dark Bristol colours, but not with this sort of bowl shape.             How about sending Tim some pix of this one for his opinion :)
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: keith on May 16, 2020, 04:41:06 PM
Surely this is too large for a wine glass  :o fits in the hand well for drinking, don't know Tim but as these things are new to me can't really argue, bit short for celery Sue  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: Paul S. on May 16, 2020, 05:18:55 PM
for me it's the bowl shape plus the u. content that's a problem  -  but who knows, I've been wrong many times.             Did wonder if this might have been a toddy rummer or mixing glass from which you decanted - via a toddy lifter - into a drinking glass  ………………   but whilst this one is big I'm not sure that it's big enough to be a mixing glass.

This was Tim's email address certainly around 5 - 6 years back -  change the at for the rat's tail.

englishantiqueglassatyahoo.co.uk                   best of luck.
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: chopin-liszt on May 16, 2020, 05:43:57 PM
The glass is far too thick for wine.
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: Ekimp on May 16, 2020, 06:02:15 PM
On page 16 of Rummers and Goblets by Stephen Parry, #41 is a “bell bowl, faceted, baluster stem with bowl collar c.1840. 175mm” but classed as a Goblet. It looks broadly similar but clear and I assume blown.
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: Paul S. on May 16, 2020, 06:48:14 PM
the suggestion that this is a goblet could well be correct, but I don't see Keith's glass as being near 1840  -  IMHO that's too early for this kind of uranium appearance.
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: Ekimp on May 16, 2020, 06:56:14 PM
Yes, I wasn’t suggesting 1840, just that it was another example of similar size and form and was classed as a goblet, rather than a rummer.
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: keith on May 16, 2020, 07:08:09 PM
Large green goblet will do me, almost wrote goblin  ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: Paul S. on May 16, 2020, 08:02:06 PM
well, that's what you end up saying after drinking from a glass this size ;D
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: neilh on May 16, 2020, 10:18:38 PM
This is also up on a facebook group. It's identical to Percival Vickers pressed goblet number 2 (from the 1881 catalogue) - the version in the catalogue is a half pint
Title: Re: Rummer or vase ?
Post by: keith on May 16, 2020, 11:15:47 PM
Thanks neilh, so 'goblin' it is  ;D ;D ;D ;D