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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Anne on August 28, 2006, 04:57:10 PM

Title: Clayton Mayers printed glasses
Post by: Anne on August 28, 2006, 04:57:10 PM
I've seen boxed sets of these which are labelled as Clayton Meyers.
http://yobunny.org.uk/gallery1/displayimage.php?pos=-208
Title: Clayton Mayers printed glasses
Post by: Frank on August 28, 2006, 05:21:24 PM
While it might be possible to id the glass blanks maker, the decorators will not neccesarily be a glassworks.

As I found with Babycham glasses, the distributors and designers were Showerings and over the years they had many suppliers of blanks and many decorating companies involved. Identification may well end up stopping at the distributor for much transfer printed glass.
Title: Clayton Mayers printed glasses
Post by: David E on August 28, 2006, 05:38:16 PM
Article on Showerings company.

http://weldgen.tripod.com/id2.html

I'd imagine Sherdley, Dema and Ravenhead were likely candidates for the blanks, however this presupposes they didn't import them.

Johnson Matthey, Ben Capper or K R Baileys are possible UK transfer suppliers.
Title: Clayton Mayers printed glasses
Post by: Frank on August 28, 2006, 06:51:10 PM
Pirelli certainly imported from France as well as using UK sources.
Title: Clayton Mayers printed glasses
Post by: David E on August 28, 2006, 07:24:08 PM
Without works records it might be a devil to identify all sources of glassware, although sometimes there are little subtle hints.
Title: Clayton Mayers printed glasses
Post by: David E on September 21, 2006, 09:24:58 PM
UPDATE:

Around early 1962, Johnsen & Jorgensen acquired a large stake in Clayton Mayers (famous for importing the Joseph Inwald Jacobean range). J&J had for many years been sole UK distributors for Sherdley glass and placed the only adverts for many, many years previously.

I have noted that Cl.Ma. started producing decorative glassware (transfers, I believe) mid-1961 and wondered whether this was a precursor to J&Js interest. In any event, Cl.Ma. started producing the 'Colourcraft' range in 1963.

The question is, although it's a tenuous link did Sherdley have a controlling interest in J&J? Probably not as J&J always seemed very independant, but there may be some link as to why Cl.Ma. started 'producing' decorative ware and perhaps Sherdley supplied the glassware?

Phew, got there eventually :P
Title: Clayton Mayers printed glasses
Post by: Frank on September 21, 2006, 11:34:02 PM
Post WW2 was just the point the technology and the need for fast changing marketting design took off together. The fifties seem to be when the UK and Europe took off, but the trend was already in full swing in the US before WW2. I suspect that it also grew fast in Japan after WW2, does anyone have info on Japan?
Title: Clayton Mayers printed glasses
Post by: David E on September 22, 2006, 08:09:13 AM
The only information I curerntly have on Japan is that Chance exported to a company in large quantities around the 1970s. This carried on with Fiesta Glass until a Japanese company based in Osaka started producing decorated slumpware (c.1985?). That's all I have.

With regard to the shape of the glass that Anne initially posted, I'm sure I've seen this on a Sherdley [edit: or Dema] advert.
Title: Clayton Mayers printed glasses
Post by: ChrisStewart on September 25, 2006, 07:49:57 AM
Quote from: "DenCill"

The question is, although it's a tenuous link did Sherdley have a controlling interest in J&J? Probably not as J&J always seemed very independant, but there may be some link as to why Cl.Ma. started 'producing' decorative ware and perhaps Sherdley supplied the glassware?


Hi,

I have not got my notes handy, but the answer to your question is I think no, they were independant companies. When Ravenhead glass was formed, J&J were given a seat on the board of Ravenhead glass. So the relationship was close.

Regards

Chris
Title: Clayton Mayers printed glasses
Post by: David E on September 25, 2006, 08:03:26 AM
Thanks Chris, nice to have this confirmed and expanded upon. Relationships between manufacturer and a sole distributor had to be a very firm bond and it is interesting that J&J were placing full-colour adverts from the late 1940s, every month, which was a substantial investment in those days, I imagine.