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Title: Matt black canoe shape bowl
Post by: Anne E.B. on August 17, 2020, 12:10:36 PM

Any idea who made this please and date?  I'm having difficulty viewing things at the moment from books/catalogues/web  ::)
TIA :-*

Title: Re: Matt black canoe shape bowl
Post by: NevB on August 17, 2020, 12:52:34 PM

I think it's a Sowerby 2480 bowl shown in their catalogue no.39 p.19 in flint, amber , blue and green but not black. I've got a photo somewhere of a straight sided one.

Title: Re: Matt black canoe shape bowl
Post by: NevB on August 17, 2020, 01:34:06 PM

This is my straight sided one in uranium green. There's a clear one on ebay, sorry I can't do a link. Pattern is English Hobstar, I think Fenton may have done a version of this.

Title: Re: Matt black canoe shape bowl
Post by: Anne E.B. on August 17, 2020, 01:59:56 PM

Thanks for replying :D and as a result I've had a look at images of the Sowerby 2480 bowl where they also show the base.  Its confusingly similar in design apart from the base.  The Sowerby ones appear to have what I call a "daisy" pattern, but mine annoyingly has a "cross" .   ??? 

Title: Re: Matt black canoe shape bowl
Post by: NevB on August 17, 2020, 02:18:39 PM

Yes mine has the elongated cross like yours and on ebay under "sowerby boat dish" there is a clear one the same but also a carnival glass one with the star base which I think might not be Sowerby. Your bowl also appears on p.21 of the 1933 catalogue described as " incurved" and "also made straight", like mine. There is no picture of the base.

Title: Re: Matt black canoe shape bowl
Post by: NevB on August 17, 2020, 04:33:40 PM

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLEAR-SOWERBY-ENGLISH-HOBSTAR-BOAT-SHAPED-PRESSED-GLASS-SNACK-POT-POURRI-DISH/153911970731?hash=item23d5de4bab:g:3xQAAOSwJkJeqDOw    I thought I'd try this to see if I can do a link.

Title: Re: Matt black canoe shape bowl
Post by: Anne E.B. on August 18, 2020, 08:52:31 AM

I found this previous posting which shows a Sowerby2480 bowl with what I referred to as a daisy pattern base https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?topic=20051.0  and a Sowerby Carnival glass 2480 bowl http://www.carnivalglassshowcase.com/product/sowerby-english-hobstar-marigold-boat-shaped-dish.html - again with a daisy pattern base (scroll down on left hand side).  So I'm not so sure that the ones with a cross on the base are Sowerby....  ???  Time for a coffee methinks  ;)

Title: Re: Matt black canoe shape bowl
Post by: NevB on August 18, 2020, 12:34:20 PM

Of course there's no reason they shouldn't all be Sowerby. I'm confident mine is the "also made straight" version mentioned in the 1933 catalogue and also being uranium points it to being earlier, although that's not always true. I also can't find another attributed to a different maker anywhere.