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Title: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: Roobarb on August 18, 2020, 10:37:06 AM
Hello, do you recognise this vase? Any help with maker or era would be great. It's 13cm tall. Thank you.
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 18, 2020, 01:57:56 PM
I suspect Maltese. The shape is right. But I don't think it's Mdina, the pink colour would be solid, not produced by rolling in powdered enamels, which causes me to worry a good bit.
I'm not really sure, to be honest. First impressions were Mdina, until I saw the powdered enamels.
It might be Phoenician, but again I don't know about the use of powdered enamels. They used solid blobs, as did Mdina.  ;D
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: flying free on August 18, 2020, 11:09:25 PM
reminds me of Midsummer glass for some reason.
But having had a look they seem to have a different base on the ones I could see. Something imprinted in the pontil mark?
There are one or two in a similar shape to this though and I think they were fond of pink at one stage.

m
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: Roobarb on August 19, 2020, 10:59:41 AM
Thank you both! Looking online there does seem to be similar items for all of these suggestions. The most similar I've been able to find is Phoenician.
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 19, 2020, 12:11:40 PM
I've been looking at some of my Phoenician and nothing uses powdered enamels. It's all chips which make blobs.
Everything about it screams Maltese, apart from the use of powdered enamels. Which rule Maltese out.  ::)
Flying-free's suggestion might be worth pursuing. :)
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: glassobsessed on August 19, 2020, 08:41:24 PM
How about:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mdina-small-pink-glass-vase-signed-/174276518164
and
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mdina-small-pink-glass-vase-/192925904180

John
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 20, 2020, 12:29:17 PM
The photos are too grainy to work out whether powdered enamels were used for the pink.
It might be a later thing they did at Mdina, but all the bits I've handled used solid enamels.

It looks as if it belongs with those Mdina bits John. It's only peering at the pics I can see the use of powders in Roobarb's.  ???
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: Roobarb on August 20, 2020, 01:52:04 PM
Thanks John, it does look really similar to those Mdina ones. Maybe it is Mdina and a bit of powder snook its way into the mix one day :D
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 20, 2020, 02:13:32 PM
It would be a completely different technique, though. ???
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: ahremck on August 21, 2020, 11:43:49 AM
Very left field I know, but it reminds me for some reason of some Ulrica Hydman-Vallien vases.

Ross
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: Roobarb on August 21, 2020, 02:13:47 PM
Just had a look and it does have a similarity to some of hers, would be nice if it was  ;D
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: glassobsessed on August 22, 2020, 05:20:27 PM
This flared cylinder shape was used by Mdina, Phoenecian too I think. There are a couple more signed Mdina vases within the current sold listings on ebay that have this same white spot on a pink background.

As to the use of powdered colour or not, experimentation has always been part of the ethos at the glassworks. It would be far more of a surprise if they had never been used.
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 22, 2020, 05:37:37 PM
It could be something they did later on.
That's the only thing that worries me - everything else is spot on.
Chunky, the correct shape and size, and well-known,
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: glassobsessed on August 22, 2020, 05:42:08 PM
The two in sold listings have the signature that can read 'Molina'.
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 22, 2020, 05:57:54 PM
Yup. Later stuff.  :)
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: Roobarb on August 22, 2020, 06:17:00 PM
Would the fact that it's not signed mean that it not Mdina, Molina or Phoenecian?
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on August 22, 2020, 06:21:48 PM
No. Lack of a mark doesn't mean anything. Sometimes things didn't get marked. It's extra work at the factory, and when they were busy they didn't bother with these sorts of extra finishing details.
Molina is just what the Mdina mark on the bottom looks like, from some time in the '80s. The letter d has a gap in it. :)
Title: Re: ID help with pink glass vase
Post by: Roobarb on August 22, 2020, 06:23:10 PM
Ah, thank you chopin-liszt - that's useful to know.