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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: SNJ on October 02, 2020, 09:48:46 AM
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Does anyone have any opinions about this, please? Standing about 40cm tall, white cased in red glass, I can only assume that it is a light shade, as both ends are open, though I can't imagine what type of fitting would hold it safely. The style would suggest Scandinavian from the 60s or 70s though I suspect it may be more modern.
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I don't think it's by Holmegaard, I can't find that exact shape on a search, but I did find a link to an etsy sale which suggests a few makers for what looks like the same shade to me.
I suspect the price is a little optimistic.
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/566613386/fog-merup-carnaby-pendant-lamp-60s-70s
I have a set of three shades myself, no known maker, but Carnaby-alike as yours is. They still look great. The rims and bases of mine are only roughly ground, like yours. We managed to get them "mounted" in a modern fitting bought from B&Q.
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Thank you very much! It's amazing how one key word (in this case 'Carnaby') can open up a restrictive internet search. Interesting to see the Etsy listing, if only to see the type of fitting that would allow the shade to be hung, and yes, the price does seem excessive. Nice to see how you've managed to use your shades - very inventive - though I wouldn't trust my diy skills to do the same and, sadly, the rooms in our cottage are less than 7 feet tall so if we hung this shade from the ceiling, it'd be more like a floor light!
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I got up on a chair to try to see how the fitting worked. :) They've been there quite a long time.
The bit for the bulb is a bit that is wider than the narrowest part of the "neck" and it just slips over and holds. The modern fitting came with stainless steel shades with caps on, we just used the caps over the glass shades. We have very high ceilings, but those shades are over the table so we hang them quite low.
There would be nothing to stop you using it upside down, as an uplighter.
The joy of these things is that even if you haven't got a known maker, they are still very practical, useful and decorative. They have the right "look". :)
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I, too, suspect it's rather modern - early 2000s to present.
See similar: https://www.lightingcompany.co.uk/tone-modern-red-glass-ceiling-pendant-light-p624
Lamps like this were (perhaps still are) usually suspended with a claw-like fitting that allows airflow around the bulb and sometimes a degree of adjustment, like so:
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Nic, knowing you know your lighting, can I ask, would I be right in thinking that Holmegaard Carnaby pieces would have fire-polished or polished rims and bottoms, rather than roughly ground as SNJ's and mine are?
I don't know if I have ever seen a real Carnaby shade or not!
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There's no such thing as a Carnaby shade, so you've likely not seen one! :)
But Holmegaard lighting of this sort was fairly variable - oftentimes it was just roughly-ground rims on both ends. It's a fairly standard finish across a plethora of factories, though.
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Here's the base rim of a 'Kreta' pendant lamp made by Kastrup-Holmegaard for Danish lighting firm Fog & Mørup - ground and a little chippy around the edges.
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;D You've still taught me a very interesting something I didn't know. Thanks very much! 8)
Mine are a little chippy around the edges too, but they are what they are and I love them.
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Just occurred to me that I've had larger versions of your lamps in the past, with a ball-shaped teak cap. Ones the same size as yours occasionally pop up.
The 'Danish Design' label usually means it wasn't made in Denmark, and may not even have been by a Danish company - just a Danish designer. Never tracked down who made them.
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Those wooden knops really set it off nicely. :)
Now I need to find somebody who can turn wood and make some for me, to replace those ill-fitting metal bits.
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They definitely stand out.
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I was immediately reminded of the knopped tops on Benny Mozfeldt cheese covers, and of St Basil's Cathedral in Moscow.
Very elegant, in a truly iconic sort of way. :)
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I, too, suspect it's rather modern - early 2000s to present.
See similar: https://www.lightingcompany.co.uk/tone-modern-red-glass-ceiling-pendant-light-p624
Lamps like this were (perhaps still are) usually suspended with a claw-like fitting that allows airflow around the bulb and sometimes a degree of adjustment, like so:
Well found! Yes, it does look very similar, doesn't it? Would look good in the right setting.
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Hi, there is some information on ’Fog & Mørup with Holmegaard’ shades here:
https://vintageinfo.be/jacob-eiler-bang-pendant-lamp/
They say “Similar, almost identical lamps were made by Base from Murano, Italy in the same period”. Your lamps look to have more of a waist to the ones they say are Holmegaard so maybe yours are from the Italians.