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Title: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: floreke on October 12, 2020, 01:54:57 PM

Dont think its Legras .
Anyone a idee ?
Regards

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: Joseph1971 on October 13, 2020, 08:40:52 AM

It's very hard to tell. By Google Image Search it shows quite a variety. Boch Fleres, Japanese Meiji Silver, Moorcroft etc. To me it doesn't seem to be Legras, because I couldn't find anything similar to what you posted. Hopefully someone can answer your question, but I hope we are on the right path here!

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 13, 2020, 01:59:20 PM

Are you absolutely sure it is enamelled and not cold painted with modern laquers?

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: floreke on October 13, 2020, 05:05:58 PM

No, I am not sure if it is enameled or cold paint, I think the gold is enameled ... bud modern i dont think so

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 13, 2020, 05:40:56 PM

I meant that the cold laquers themselves are modern.  :)
For people to decorate things at home.

You can get tubes of gold laquer which make thick lines like those.

One way to tell is if it comes off in hot water - I don't recommend you try it. ;D ::)

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: floreke on October 20, 2020, 04:47:38 PM

Can it be Harach ?

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 20, 2020, 04:52:32 PM

 :) The work is not particulary good quality, even if it's not home-done with modern cold enamels. The raised lines do not contain what is inside them.

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: floreke on October 20, 2020, 04:59:53 PM

ok thanks for the help !!!
Think i can give it up  ;D

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 20, 2020, 05:46:56 PM

 :)
Sorry if this was a disappointment.

Are there sections where any gold on the surface has worn off, showing yellow enamel underneath?
Gilded glass normally has that.

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: floreke on October 20, 2020, 06:03:51 PM

No disappointment  ;)

I had notting to loose so i scrached at te goldcolor and under the gold is a yellow - orange hard layer ...

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 20, 2020, 06:26:49 PM

It probably is real enamel then - but it's still not really perfect and beautiful, is it?
It's just pretty.  :)
The work you would see on Harrach or Legras would be finer and more detailed, and internal colour would not be going outside raised lines.

Title: Re: Small vase with enameled decor not signed
Post by: floreke on October 22, 2020, 02:44:28 PM

Ok thanks for the info !!
Think we can close this topic ...