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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: nick.a on October 14, 2020, 02:31:28 PM
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I'm not sure of the shape, but I believe from the style and pontil mark that this is a Monart bowl/dish. Any comments much appreciated.
Best regards
Nick
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Sorry, 8 1/2" diameter and 2 1/4" deep or 215mm x 55mm. Weight unknown as the watch type battery on my scales needs replacing :)
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Looks about right. :)
It might be the pattern known as "Queen Mother" - that was a very pale blue.
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I have one but it's greens and blues swirls with some glittery bits iirc. Does that make a difference to what it's called? For some reason I'd thought mine was called Royal Wedding but mine's a bit different colourway.
Photos are not great as it's actually quite pale and eau de nil effect in real life;
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,51636.msg292871.html#msg292871
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The pale blue with gold aventurine was for something to do with Elizabeth of Glamis, her wedding or something to do with her becoming queen mother - I'm not really up on any details of royalty, they're not currently part of my social set.
Their application is currently in the pending drawer. ;)
Pale green was nothing to do with her - only the very pale baby blue.
It looks the correct colour for Brenda's Mum's stuff in the first two pics - but it looks a lot darker in the others. :)
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I wonder what mine is then. Must have a look through again.
I forgot about it for a long while but recently pulled it out the cupboard again and it's now very nicely displayed :D
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Thank you both for the information.
Sue:
The actual colour most resembles the first two photos which were taken against a dark background with flash, the other two were in dull natural light. The Queen Mum did wear lots of baby blue outfits, perhaps it was her favourite colour. The second bowl I listed today is a very similar colour, Id be very interested in any views you have on it.
Flying Free:
Very nice to have a label on yours. Does the UB VII designation refer to the bowl shape or the colourway?
Kind regards
Nick
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Honestly, I've got no idea. I seem to remember it refers to the shape I think?
I need to go and do some reading up :-[
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I had a look at your other piece and I suspect Nazeing but don't know enough to be absolutely sure it's not Grey-Stan. I suspect not, but decided to keep my trap shut! Not Ysart though.
I couldn't even track down the Ysart glass bit of Scotland's Glass today. ::)
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From YsartGlass https://www.ysartglass.com/extrapics/PicsMonart02.htm (Fourth entry)
M0014 Monart bowl, The Silver Wedding design.
Shape: UB.
Size: 215mm Diameter.
Colour: Pale blue, clear rim with aventurine.
By the way, the VII in the OPs post is the size code. And the silver wedding was in 1948 in respect of George V and Elizabeth (Queen Mother).
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Sue, M and Kevin, thank you all for the information, it's much appreciated.
Best regards
Nick
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Yes. Thanks Kev, for getting us right. ;)
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I have seen this colour called many names, it is actually a colourway made by :
"Monart Glass
forming part of City of Perth’s gift to
H.R.H. Princess Elizabeth & The Duke of Edinburgh
on the occasion of their wedding
on 20th November 1947"
"https://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/Wedding.htm
Its very pale blue in clear with gold adventurine around the rim.....not my favourite colourway.......hope this sets the record straight! not sure why it's labelled as silver wedding on that piece!
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see also this:
"1947 - Paul restarted limited Monart production.
One of first productions was 33-piece set as wedding gift for Princess Elizabeth and Prince Philip of Greece. Set made in new colour scheme of pale blue, clear edge with gold flecks, subsequently known as‘ wedding gift’ scheme. "
https://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/Calendar.htm
and:
" Post war Monart. In the meantime, at Moncrieff’s, Paul Ysart resumed production of Monart in late 1946, with the making of one of the City of Perth’s wedding gifts to the Princess Elizabeth and the Duke of Edinburgh. He could not do so on his own of course, and he recruited a man named Johnny Jones from Edinburgh and Leith Flint Glass Works. The glass industry is fairly parochial and Paul had kept in touch with workers in Edinburgh, and in fact bought lampwork snakes and dragonflies from a glassmaker there for his paperweights. Johnny Jones remembers well travelling up from Edinburgh, and staying at Paul Ysart’s house in Perth overnight, while he looked over the job. “The bath was full of paperweights”, he recalls “and the house was awash with beautiful vases and decorative glassware.”
Around six or seven sets of the ‘Wedding Gift’ tableware were made, and the best pieces were selected to make up a set for presentation to the Royal Household."
https://www.ysartglass.com/Ysart/DominicP.htm
Sorry to bore you all with the finer details....... :D
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It's fascinating to learn that the lampwork butterflies and so on were not made by Paul, but bought in.
I did know about the bath full of weights and all the work he had kept hidden away to himself. 8)