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Title: Pressed glass vase
Post by: essi on July 07, 2021, 09:08:42 PM
Found this vase today and had to take it home. My knowledge of pressed glass is small.
Any help concerning the manufacturer or the time period would be appreciated.
It is 145mm tall. Top diameter is 120mm and the base is 70mm.
Thanks,
Tim
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: Paul S. on July 08, 2021, 11:26:11 AM
on Pamela's pressglas-pavilon.de it appears to be showing in the unknown group of vases  -  whether I'm looking at an old edition of that site I'm unsure - perhaps since then it's been given an id.   It's the first item on line 26.               https://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/08895.jpg
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: NevB on July 08, 2021, 01:45:18 PM
It's a guess but it has a hint of the Biedermeier style about it which would make it mid to late 19thC.
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: Paul S. on July 08, 2021, 06:06:28 PM
Wiki seems to be saying that this style ended mid C19 ? - not that I would know, but assume it's the chunky style foot in particular that suggests that connection.
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: NevB on July 08, 2021, 06:46:25 PM
Yes Paul, officially it was about 1840-50 but I think the influence carried on later than that, but I'm no expert.
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: Paul S. on July 08, 2021, 07:08:29 PM
taking a totally uneducated punt I'd imagine this hails from somewhere c. 1920 - 1950, but get a horrible feeling it will remain a nony mouse.    If Pamela wasn't able to run it down then presumably  not an easy piece to ID.          You know what an expert is ??    X marks the spot and a spurt is a drip under pressure ;D
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: flying free on July 08, 2021, 07:29:06 PM
I've a dark blue vase with fins that I thought was Sowerby.
Like this one:
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/85/01/49/850149e34a172a7d071f968021f4d0df.jpg
Yours reminded me of this when I saw it, probably because of the sticking out fin bits.

It's nice - unusual.
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: essi on July 08, 2021, 07:36:14 PM
Thank you both for your input.
The stylistic influences on the vase would keep an art student busy for a while.
The pictures are not the best, but i took the spheres and the vertical drop to be sort of art nouveau .
The base with the dots have an Art deco feel.
Overall looks, sort of Jugendstil ?
As stated, if Pamela has not tracked it down this could run and run.
Tim
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: essi on July 08, 2021, 07:42:27 PM
Sorry M i posted before i saw your post.
Should read, thank you all.
That blue looks fantastic.
Tim
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: Paul S. on July 08, 2021, 09:15:05 PM
IMHO m, your finned vase is never Sowerby  -  again, I'd suggest interwar years and if I had to suggest origin, it would be eastern Europe, or slightly west of that ;D
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: Paul S. on July 10, 2021, 01:27:33 PM
Having dug around some more, have to admit I was surprised to see the similarity of design between the dark blue vase in m's link together with m's suggestion that this might possibly be a Sowerby design  -  and a very similar shaped vase on Pamela's 'pressglas-pavillon site which has a positive Sowerby provenance  ............  was it this similarity m, between your piece and the Sowerby vase that made you think of Sowerby for yours?   Have to say I'd have put money on the dark blue example being eastern European rather than British.       See this link for the example on Pamela Wessendorf's museum    https://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/vasen/02004.html .               There were many glass designs produced during the interwar years that were understandably influenced by art deco  -  with fins, angular and stepped layers  etc. in what we'd call the art deco style.
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: flying free on July 10, 2021, 08:52:36 PM
Hmm Paul.  I've always 'known' my vase was Sowerby but it's been so long that I like to be a bit circumspect just in case :)
However, comparing it to the one on Pamela's site the fins appear to start further down the body of the vase whereas those on her vase start at the rim.

So whilst I was 'sure' but trying to appear not just in case, it might in fact be that either mine or hers isn't Sowerby. 
I was happy with mine being Sowerby because I think they produced that blue in a boat shaped bowl so I felt ok with whatever research evidence I found at the time.
Not so sure now  :-X
Title: Re: Pressed glass vase
Post by: Paul S. on July 11, 2021, 08:12:54 AM
Well, I'd have put my shirt on your blue example being eastern Europe, but now having seen the vase on Pamela's site I'm very much unsure, and in view of the similarity between the two, then perhaps yours too does stand a chance of being Sowerby - who knows.             I could be wrong, but imagine that Pamela Wessendorf has taken Roger Dodsworth's attribution as gospel, and suspect most of us would follow suite  -  the provenance he quotes seems unassailable.       Perhaps the greater mystery might be that, despite the overall general similarity of design, it appears odd that there are small differences, and two similar but slightly different designs seems odd if they were coming from the same source.     We might never crack this one. :(