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Title: Is it a ' finger bowl ' or a ' verrieres ' ? Royal Collection Perrin Geddes & co
Post by: flying free on July 11, 2021, 12:25:22 PM
Described in the Royal Collection as  one of part of a set of 14 ' verrieres '.

Item looks similar to that which we've been discussing on the Queen Victoria bowl thread as a finger bowl  :-\
I'm just wondering if using the correct terminology of the time might help further searches  ::)

https://www.rct.uk/collection/search#/38/collection/68278/set-of-verrieres

set of 14 verrieres.

On reading the description of how these came into the Royal Collection it's a wonder the Liverpool Corporation didn't go bust.
Title: Re: Is it a ' finger bowl ' or a ' verrieres ' ? Royal Collection Perrin Geddes & co
Post by: Paul S. on July 11, 2021, 05:33:03 PM
might have been more helpful if an English descriptive word had been used instead  -  notice that the other items are described in English.    Foreign words don't always travel well  -  seems that verrieres has at different times been used to describe rinsers, finger bowls and Monteiths  -  so take your pick.       I'd also suggest the term hobnail is incorrect  -  the side cutting showing here is very typical of large relief diamonds, whereas hobnails are usually an eight-sided cut feature - sometimes called cane by the guys on the other side of the pond.     From a practical  point of view this design looks fated from the word go - can't see that rim staying pristine after the folk below stairs had done the washing up a few times.               Size wise they're a good depth for either rinser or finger bowl  -  all those I've seen have had a smooth rim when used as finger bowl, and either one or two (opposing) notches if a rinser, but they appear way OTT for a monteith  -  you get the feeling that they were made simply as a tour-de-force of the company's glass cutting abilities - but would look good used as a desert or sweet meat bowl.    If they're on ebay, I'll take a punt m - where do you see them starting  -  K350 perhaps.     Sorry, hadn't see the other GMB thread you mention. 
Title: Re: Is it a ' finger bowl ' or a ' verrieres ' ? Royal Collection Perrin Geddes & co
Post by: flying free on July 11, 2021, 05:47:14 PM
The other GMB thread is at 14 pages of my ramblings so you really don't want to go there :)
Well, the final few posts are key, but the rest is all the justification for my conclusion  ;D

Yes it's an odd word to use - especially since they were made at Perrin Geddes ... that well known French firm   ::)
Title: Re: Is it a ' finger bowl ' or a ' verrieres ' ? Royal Collection Perrin Geddes & co
Post by: Paul S. on July 11, 2021, 07:42:28 PM
Wot, you ramble - perish the thought ;D ;D