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Title: Glassworks in Birmingham, question.
Post by: keith on September 04, 2021, 07:45:54 PM
Came across a picture today of a scene in Birmingham, looking from Bradford Street towards the city centre, on the right ( somewhere near today's coach station ) there are what look like a couple of glass cones, not aware of any glass makers based in the Digbeth part of the city, does anyone know more ?  ;D
https://www.facebook.com/BirminghamMuseumandArtGallery/photos/a.426011572974/10159938599712975/
Title: Re: Glassworks in Birmingham, question.
Post by: Paul S. on September 04, 2021, 08:25:56 PM
not a clue about B'ham Keith but ...........    any chance these were related to pottery rather than glass?            Looks like it might have been market day  -  windows look rather mean and narrow  -  could that be something to do with the tax on glass?
Title: Re: Glassworks in Birmingham, question.
Post by: Anne on September 04, 2021, 09:39:14 PM
Not very well up on Birmingham geography but seem to recall Aston isn't far from Digbeth? Could it be the Aston Flint Glassworks, Keith? https://brumphotoarchive.co.uk/image/2869/Aston_Flint_Glassworks_Bagot_Street_Aston_near_Birmingham
Title: Re: Glassworks in Birmingham, question.
Post by: keith on September 04, 2021, 11:01:47 PM
Did wonder if they could have been pottery works, not aware of any potters in Digbeth either, I'll do a bit of digging.
Anne, Aston isn't far from Digbeth but these cones are in Digbeth, I worked in the area for a number of years and got to know the area well, I'll ask a few people I know who are into our local history  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Glassworks in Birmingham, question.
Post by: keith on September 06, 2021, 11:14:18 AM
Been doing some digging, most,as Anne said most seem to be in Aston but a glass enamel firm, Thomas Clutton Salt had a factory off Bradford Street, do glass enamel factories have glass cones ? I've also found a Codd bottle on ebay impressed with the marks G & E Edmonds, Deritend ( Part of Digbeth )
Title: Re: Glassworks in Birmingham, question.
Post by: Anne on September 06, 2021, 06:13:49 PM
Keith, I did a trawl of the board for Digbeth mentions and found this by Fred from Jan 2020 which might be useful: 
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,69201.msg385623.html#msg385623

Edit: Scratch this, I found the Belmont Glassworks at the top of Lawley Street, so not the same place.
Title: Re: Glassworks in Birmingham, question.
Post by: Anne on September 06, 2021, 06:35:10 PM
Keith I've found a map showing the enamel works and it has what appears to be a round building in it! It stands between Bradford Street and Stone Yard (at the top of Green Street). https://www.british-history.ac.uk/os-1-to-2500/birmingham/014/05 (https://www.british-history.ac.uk/os-1-to-2500/birmingham/014/05) - Zoom in until you see where it says DERITEND in big letters across the map and the circle is just above but between the E and the R.

And an aerial photo of the site showing the remains of a circular something or other - possible the base of the cone?
https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?attachments/digbeth-and-high-street-deritend-bbb-jpg.81675/ (https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?attachments/digbeth-and-high-street-deritend-bbb-jpg.81675/)
Title: Re: Glassworks in Birmingham, question.
Post by: keith on September 06, 2021, 11:06:42 PM
Thanks Anne those links are the places where I've been asking questions and have seen those pictures, I have an old engraving  showing the cones, I'll sort out the link tomorrow  ;D
Title: Re: Glassworks in Birmingham, question.
Post by: flying free on September 07, 2021, 04:53:05 PM
have you seen this info Keith?

Know nothing about Birmingham but there seems to be some info on this thread - discussion about brick works?:

https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/bradford-street.38749/page-4


and info about Goffe and Sons mineral water works - where were their bottles made?

https://birminghamhistory.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/goffe-sons-mineral-water.30694/
Title: Re: Glassworks in Birmingham, question.
Post by: keith on September 07, 2021, 07:23:39 PM
Thanks M, saw the first one, the second, Duke street is in Aston, spent 6 weeks there training, there seems to have been a lot of glassworks in that small area  ;D ;D