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Title: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: Florence on September 20, 2021, 08:36:04 AM
 I recently purchased a Caithness second which I have since found out is a Mini Poinsettia.  The ones I have found in my research all have a faceted top whereas the top of mine is round.  I presume it wasn’t faceted because it was a second, am I right in that assumption.  It is a beautiful weight, I am really pleased with it, it is hard to see why it is a second.
Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: ahremck on September 20, 2021, 12:14:55 PM
A couple of photos would be helpful.  A general tabletop view, and a carefully focused base view taken from a little to one side.

Ross
Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: Nick77 on September 20, 2021, 01:11:52 PM
Hi welcome to the board, yes once it was realised it had gone wrong they would not spend additional time and money carrying on with it, it would be sold as is as a second. As Ross says without seeing it it's not possible to say why it was classed as a second.

Nick
Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: Florence on September 20, 2021, 02:49:36 PM
Sorry, I posted the original message from my Ipad this morning and didn't have access to my photos - hoping this works  ::)

Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 20, 2021, 06:48:53 PM
 :) There's a little air bubble on a petal, that would be quite enough for it to be deemed a second. I don't know if it's the photo or reality, but some of the canes look a little squashed/squint, and they do not seem to be in quite a perfect circle.
A very tiny, minor flaw is enough for Caithness to deem something a second.
Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: Florence on September 20, 2021, 08:00:28 PM
I see the bubble clearly on the photo, its not so obvious when looking at the weight itself. Thank you all for your input - it is a really pretty little weight 😁
Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: ahremck on September 21, 2021, 03:24:15 AM
Interesting that it does not have the C][G marking on the base.  Nor is there any engraving.

Ross
Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: Florence on September 21, 2021, 07:17:52 AM
It does have the CIiC mark, it just doesn’t show wrll on thecpicture x
Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 21, 2021, 01:58:09 PM
 :) If you want to bring a mark up for photographing, rub a little talcum powder over it with your thumb. (cornflour, cocoa or cinnamon also work)
Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: Florence on September 21, 2021, 02:24:22 PM
Thank you - I actually knew that but forgot lol
Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: christinewalling!2364 on September 21, 2021, 02:27:34 PM
Just for interest, I personally bought my first ever paperweight, probably early 2000’s a teardrop ring pink weight, I purchased from the huge factory shop they had then, now a marks and Spencer’s I thing, it was in a cabinet of seconds, although don’t think that was the term they used then, it has no etching or engraved marks on it at all, as indeed does another Caithness weight I bought from the Caithness shop at Crieff, about 2009 and that too has no markings on it, also a third from Crieff flat bottomed no markings
Title: Re: Caithness Pointsettia second
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 21, 2021, 03:04:47 PM
More recently, they have been using sticky labels rather than marking the weights.
Marking glass is extra hand work and requires special tools and equipment. I suspect only Ltd. Edns. will be marked now.
The centre in Crieff is wonderful to visit. I miss it.  :'(