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Title: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: glassamore on September 22, 2021, 09:36:21 PM
Hello again my friends at Glass Message Board
This is my latest find - Paid £8 in charity stall at a fair.
I have searched the net to see if I can find a similar bowl but can't find one!!!
Does anyone know the maker designer - It's a plain Jane but on its own it desplays well. I am guessing 60's /70's ??
Measuring approx: 48cm (19") wide x 17cm (6" + 5/8ths) deep x 12.7cm (5') higest point
If anyone could identify the maker, designer, age I would be very grateful.
Thanks you very much in advance
With best regards
Gary - Glass Amore
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 23, 2021, 12:14:02 PM
 :) This has a strong look of Chalet (from Canada) to me, but this is only a suggestion.
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: glassamore on September 23, 2021, 06:02:09 PM
Oh Sue you are always the first to reply - how kind of you - the font of all glass - I will check Chalet out - Ive not heard of Chalet before so this will be interesting doing some research on them . I will report back with my findings
Thank You
With kind regards
Gary - Glass Amore
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: glassamore on September 26, 2021, 12:57:54 AM
Confused I will be - I am!!!!
After researching Chalet (Canada) and contacting their FB page and looking at their entire catalogue I have been informed that it is not a piece by them. I can see why one would point me in their direction.
In studying their art glass nearly all are cased in clear glass and the majority have the Chalet logo and Canada etched into the base. My piece is solid amber glass with no clear glass casing, no makers mark or label. Also what made the search difficult is that Chalet changed its name in 1960 to "Murano Glass" and their work in fact is so similar to their Venetian counterparts owing to the company being set up by 3 Venetian glass masters and employed many glass blowers from Venice. I was then told to take a look at Lorraine and EDAG glass companies (both Canadian), again their work is almost always cased in clear glass and their designs are very similar to Chalet (Murano Glass) and most of the Venetian glass makers.
So as you can see i have come full circle - Does anyone have anymore suggestions?
I've really enjoyed the journey so far  ;D - I hope this all makes sense???
Thanks in advance for anymore pointers.
With kind regards
Gary - Glass Amore
PS: I have attached a picture of the side view showing no casing
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: glassamore on September 26, 2021, 01:08:28 AM
I still keep getting excited thinking I have found the maker as in my search I keep bouncing back to Zemek of the Mstisov Glassworks but their work looks far better quality than my piece.
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: glassamore on September 26, 2021, 01:28:45 AM
... Or at least more colourful  ;D
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: Lustrousstone on September 26, 2021, 09:54:39 AM
Can we have a base shot please.
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: glassamore on September 26, 2021, 11:07:13 AM
Hi Lustrousstone
Thanks for any help you can give me - I love glass but always want to know who made it etc.
Here are some base shots
With best regards
Gary - Glass Amore
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 26, 2021, 04:11:00 PM
Those shots are far better at showing off the colour, Gary. It's a rosy golden amber rather than a dull one, which is very nice, and I would think an indication of better quality.
But I'm lost if it's not Chalet. This isn't really my area, I don't enough about other makers of this kind of glass.  :-[
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: glassamore on September 26, 2021, 06:22:33 PM
Hi Sue
Thanks for your comments - You have helped me because as I research items I learn and try to understand the development of  glass companies and their expertise. I find it so interesting and to eliminate a company is a step nearer to finding the correct maker. Although I find it strange with the millions of images on search engines that the bowl does not come up. I had a cup and saucer from a friend (no backstamps), he had broken a cup and wanted me to find the pattern and the maker.  I went through hundreds of thousands of images and found it in  the end after two weeks and then found one on ebay for sale but never learnt the maker or the pattern name  :'(. So you can see that I am not the type of guy that gives up easily. but as I said strange there is nothing close to it on the net. I'm glad you think the quality maybe better than what I'm thinking. I hate owning glass that I don't know the history of. Thank you for your time to mail me, I really appreciate it.
With kind regards
Gary - Glass Amore
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: glassamore on September 26, 2021, 11:33:41 PM
Hi Sue
I can see why you may of thought Chalet for my bowl - here are three pics of a Chalet bowl very similar but cased in clear glass and has a larger foot.
With best regards
Gary Glass Amore
Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: flying free on September 27, 2021, 10:01:39 AM
I still keep getting excited thinking I have found the maker as in my search I keep bouncing back to Zemek of the Mstisov Glassworks but their work looks far better quality than my piece.

Your piece looks perfectly well made to me so I don't understand this comment :)

I would have first thought Czech glass to be honest,probably Chribska because of the shape however the fact yours isn't cased would cause a pause for thought admittedly. That said, I can't see any reason why Chribska wouldn't have made a single colour vase over the vast number of years they were making these kind of shapes.



 I also have a tall vase it reminds me of and I think that was Skrdlovice.  My vase is two colour admittedly, brown with green casing, but the pulls and the base finish are no different to yours iirc. Certainly nothing  about quality of yours stands out as it looks no different to my vase.


That said, this thread might help :)  it was raised on page 2 that the amber vases on this thread were probably made in Estonia:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,31261.msg169451.html#msg169451


Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: flying free on September 27, 2021, 10:30:57 AM
Actually I've just been through the entire Museum collection and I don't think your bowl shape is a common shape from there so I'd be inclined to say it's not Estonian.
I still think it's Czech :)
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Title: Re: Amber Glass Bowl Identification - Mstisov Moser Zemek???
Post by: Ekimp on September 27, 2021, 11:27:29 AM
H glassamore, I don’t know much about this sort of thing and wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s Czech  :)

In reply 3 you talk about Chalet Glass being named Murano glass but I believe that was only for a couple of years. There is an article on Chalet Glass here: http://www.antique67.com/articles.php?article=79 That says it started off called Les Industries de Verre et Miroirs In 1958, then changed to Murano in 1960, then finally to Chalet Artistic Glass In 1962. It’s not easy searching for Chalet Glass either as you get lots of skiers ;D

It might also be worth looking at Altaglass, another Canadian one - but possibly the people on the Chalet FB group might’ve suggested that if likely. Anyway, here is a similar one (not cased but with bubbles) attributed to Altaglass: https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php?topic=18474.0