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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: keith on September 23, 2021, 05:46:19 PM
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6 inches tall with this one, shear mark to base and what maybe a gadget mark to the top of the foot, inscribed ... D.Bevral , Spelter Works 1886, no chance of finding which spelter works that would have been ::) ;D ;D
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What a really lovely find - posh ptherthphtherosomething.
Fern glass to normal folk. ;D
But a particularly wonderful and interesting example.
Is the base of the glass flat? It looks to almost have corners! 8)
Possibly a daft question. :-[
In the first pic, I can see the top of the foot.
Where is the gadget mark? I don't know what to look for. Can you describe the position for me using the clockface convention, pretty please? :)
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Hello Sue, almost flat, got a few wrinkles, probably not the best example to show the gadget mark, this one is better, it's a bit like the top of the foot has been impressed with a small horse shoe , does this help, I might have a better example somewhere ;D ;D
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If I knew which bit to be staring at, it would help me a lot. ???
Is it the triangular bit at about ten past the hour?
And about quarter past, on the first pic?
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the Victorian's obsession with pteridomania, as Christine once said - though when I punched that into the Board's search nothing came up. Silber & Fleming is full of small and large glass paned containers in which they grew their ferns. Your description of a horse shoe shape is v.g. Keith, and it occurs to me that the textured surface area outside of that might be the result of the asbestos string??
How about using a black felt tip on the foot, to outline the gadget mark area, then posting the picture.
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Does this help, the gadget is a wooden contraption that holds the foot while the glass is being finished, there's a picture in Hajdamach's book I believe. ;D
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thanks Keith - yes, that's a v.g. outline showing how the contraption left an impression on the foot of the glass. You might check again, but have a feeling that both Wilkinson and Hajdamach show metal gadgets.
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I've been looking for something like a clamp mark, on the edge. ::)
Keith, your two line drawing paints a thousand words! ;D 8) ;D
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Here is a link for Paul’s topic on the gadget where he shows an excellent clear photo of the mark left by a gadget: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,56058.0.html
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a very big thanks for locating that thread - seems a long time ago, thought I do remember being very chuffed at finding an example and even happier at getting a good clear shot with the camera.
And to have praise from Christine and Peter must have made my day. I do in fact still have that glass though the black felt tip has mostly worn away. thanks again. :)
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Sue, not so clear as the image Ekimp found on Paul's site, not my best work of art ! ::) ;D
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I’m always on the lookout for the ‘c’ mark now, thanks Paul :D
I wasn’t criticising your photography Keith :) just it’s remarkably clear on Paul’s glass. I think I have the twin of your glass, same shape and with the gadget mark visible but sadly just the ferns on mine, no date - it’s nice to have a date.
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I don't know where I was or what I was doing that I missed that thread at that time.
The title is quite clear enough, and it would have piqued my interest. :-[ :-[ :-[
Now, I know.
Thanks to all who have helped me stagger my way slowly into comprehension. ;D ;D ;D