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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: flora on November 20, 2021, 07:21:58 PM

Title: Round decanter with smoke stopper
Post by: flora on November 20, 2021, 07:21:58 PM
Can anyone help identify this pretty decanter?

New to collecting and can't find this one, though I think it's similar to this "Ramona" Per Lutken Holmegaard one I found on eBay, but not the same. https://www.ebay.com/itm/304105946830

It also has an odd stamp I can't make out that I haven't seen before.

Many thanks in advance for help or tips/resources on identifying pieces on my own. I've found this page super helpful but a little difficult to navigate.
Title: Re: Round decanter with smoke stopper
Post by: flora on November 20, 2021, 07:47:07 PM
here's a better picture
Title: Re: Round decanter with smoke stopper
Post by: flora on November 20, 2021, 07:48:45 PM
and here's the mark I can't make out
Title: Re: Round decanter with smoke stopper
Post by: Paul S. on November 20, 2021, 08:10:33 PM
Hi - regret I can't decipher it either - always possible it's a fault in the glass.       Photographing back stamps and other makers marks can often be a problem insofar as being able to reproduce them clearly enough so they're legible enough for posting.      Angling the light and avoiding glare helps sometimes - rubbing some talc on the area might help to highlight the words.        As you can imagine, there are zillions of decanters in a vast array of designs  -  though looking at this one the colour might suggest a Scandi connection - but then smoky was a common colour from that area.
Lutken was with Holmegaard (Danish) for a long time  -  according to the books, Lutken's pieces are commonly applied with the engraved Holmegaard - followed by the production date framing his own PL monogram i.e. 19PL59              Sorry this isn't the answer you wanted - hopefully others will have a more constructive reply for you.
Having now looked at one or two 'Ramona' bottles on the screen, it appears that they are without any factory/PL inscribed provenance/attribution  -  why this should be I've no idea  -  Scandi not my interest.            This seems unusual in view of the comments that 'Ramona' as a PL design goes back to c. early 1950s.

Do have another go at photographing the underside.
Title: Re: Round decanter with smoke stopper
Post by: Paul S. on November 20, 2021, 10:48:12 PM
one possible reason for these Ramona bottles to be without a Holmegaard provenance might be ...................    Lutken died twenty odd years back I believe, but assume commercially the decanter design remains successful.            So Ramona is still made, but since the designer is no longer with us, his name/initials are no longer applied to the pieces???          Pieces reputed to be by a given designer, but lacking the necessary scratched attribution are potentially open to question  -  when some reasonable value is involved, then the copyists are sometimes known to be near at hand.