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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: NevB on December 19, 2021, 02:24:13 PM
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This seems a bit different with its grape and vine etching, cut base and full width ground/polished bottom. I'm thinking possibly Czech but I can't find anything similar, it has a very fine line of wear around the base. Height is 8.5cm
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If the rim is fire polished, perhaps English rather than Czech
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am sure I've seen this scale cutting on a tumbler before, somewhere, but now can't recall where. Looking at the base the polishing doesn't look too refined, so am assuming a recent manufacture.
sorry this isn't helpful :)
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The rim has been polished, I'd have thought being a drinking glass that wherever it was made the rim would have been polished. Anchor Hocking made "Georgian" pattern glasses with a similar appearance which would have been moulded. The polishing of the base and cutting to my mind have been done really nicely but as to age I'm not sure.
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The bowl shape looks a bit like a hock glass bowl, which might make sense with the engraving. Maybe something from the continent that has evolved from a roemer?
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Thanks Ekimp, I've been looking at hock glasses and similar to see if I can match the grape and leaf designs, to at least tie down a maker, but no luck so far.
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But is the rim fire polished (rounded) or just polished flat? Czech glasses often have rims that are just ground and polished flat
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The rim appears to have been fire polished but in places is flat, I don't think it has been ground, it also has a very small mark which could be a fault or a tool mark. There are similar ones to it on Ebay with doubtful attribution to Walsh, the cut part certainly looks like Walsh but I'm not convinced the fruiting vine does. There is a similarly shaped tumbler at the bottom of figure 289 in Eric Reynolds book but I can't see any detail or read the description.
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Hill Ouston list these as English crystal cut and engraved, Vine Pattern Suite 1/2 pint tumbler 3 3/4" which is near enough in height. Does not help on maker though.
The vine decoration was sold in the early 30s to 1940, my next catalogue was 1954 by which time cut was replaced by gold lines, shapes changed a little and yours is closest 1940. The undecorated shape was available in a range of sizes.
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Thanks Frank, that's very interesting and pleasing because I was doubtful about its age. The height given is right but mine is only about 1/3 of a pint and is also not lead crystal, density is about 2.5gms/cc. I assume each manufacturer had their own distinct fruiting vine design so I think that will be the most likely method of finding the maker.
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Actually they varied it quite a lot and while line engravings some are very close to yours.