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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: LEGSY on December 23, 2021, 04:24:47 PM
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I have a decent little collection i started a few years back, I found that the smaller than imaginable
Victorian/Georgian glass table ware and especially creamer's really made a light switch on in me
each and every one is a small work of art and rarely identical some are wonky others perfectly
formed anyway i am always looking to purchase these :) This one is part molded with a type of berry?
on the lower portion of the body with a folded rim and sharp pontil scar under a magnifying loop there
is a lot of bits inside the glass with plenty of wear to the base, The sharp pontil scar has some very dark
something or other in grained around it. I would say it does not ring very well when flicked maybe soda??
I recently listed a continental Heavy Baluster and received some great info about that which lead me to check
if this little jug was uv reactive and it does glow so i am thinking maybe continental but would love to get an idea
on the date and if it is possible the country of origins and help welcome thank you for looking
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some more pictures :)
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the reaction to ultra-violet light would more likely be caused by manganese, and should appear as a dull grey/green - it's been around for eons mostly as a colourant, rather than a de-colourant which would be its use here (that's assuming the reaction is a greenish appearance).
The top down handle suggests manufacture was some time prior to 1860, and bearing in mind the folded top rim then could be nearer the beginning of the C19 and possibly formed, initially, by a dip-mould - this provides the 'berry' decorative moulding - the piece is then removed and blown again to finished size - but I am guessing somewhat with this suggestion.
Are there any mould seams on the outside surface of the glass? Early blown-moulded pieces, made in part moulds, might show evidence of seams which could be removed by fire-polishing, hence the pointil scar where this was carried out and for which the jug needed to be put on the rod.
Can't see too clearly detail on the underside of the base - it looks almost stippled, but the presence of a sharp scar indicates this piece was finished on the pontil rod, then snapped as a final act, after fire-polishing for example.
These various features - including seeds - suggest a genuinely old creamer or milk jug, though it's not impossible the piece is more recent and made to appear older. Does the colour suggest a lead hue perhaps?
Doubt that you'll get as far as origin, but English wouldn't be an unreasonable suggestion.
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:)Very interesting thank you for replying with so much information it has made me look at it in a
different way altogether i can certainly see and feel slight mold lines just one set opposite to one another
from the base up to where the pea/berry molding stops then sort of sweeps away into the clear smooth glass
i can see where it has been worked under a loop sort of ???.
The clarity of the glass has quite a few seeds and impurities also a fair few tiny air bubbles...in it.
Interestingly as you mentioned the base is stippled towards the edge in some strong lights ???
The color i will have another look in the morning.. I have a link below just after half way down is a molded jug
with a similar decoration and an unusual crude handle some similarities to this one.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/45570/45570-h/45570-h.htm
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there's no doubting the appeal of glass made during the Age of Exuberance - much of it to die for. It's a shame that Mrs. Elizabeth Graydon-Stannus - a genuinely talented and innovative pioneer of the Studio movement - should have fallen foul of her own ego in other respects. It's not for her work in C20 art glass - which is desirable and probably costly - that there's a problem, rather it's her copying of some C18 Irish made originals that she let herself down.
Who knows, maybe you have a piece of her glass ;D
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Thanks Paul :)
I wonder if a book similar to the decanter mans books would be
a wonderfully popular piece of text for collectors of Jugs & Pitchers?
For somebody with a literary ability in such things :D
All the best Paul