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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: CarolineS on January 22, 2022, 04:42:16 PM
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Hi, I found this lovely 23cm tall, hexagonal lens vase and after much searching, I think it is a Libochovice, but cannot find any reference for it. Can anyone help to identify please?
Many thanks
C
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Hi - welcome to the GMB :) - I think you're correct - it does appear to be Libochovice (Czechoslovakian) - the height is given as 24 cm. as opposed your 23 cm., but measurements with pressed glass are often not precise.
The Pattern No. looks to be 2190 from the pre 1958 catalogue - it may be on Pamela's pressglas.pavillon.de museum under the Musterbuch listings. If you don't have the Sklo-Union book or the CD that came with the book you may struggle to find an image. Just a personal opinion, but I'd be inclined to describe the lenses as circular. ;) This factory knocked out similarly designed patterns with square and circular patterning in profusion, hope I haven't got this one wrong.
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Thank you Paul for the warm welcome and the info.
I had been searching for hours, including the catalogue, for a picture. I will check out Pamela's Musterbuch listings.
(Ebay has many similar vases listed as Art Deco with no mention of Libochovice!)
I found the vase dumped in the street, but unfortunately they had thrown another horrible vase inside it, which is why the inner base is a bit damaged.
I like it, it's very heavy! Thank you for the tip about the lenses, they are circular and the vase is six sided.
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I once found a W/Fs Tricorn vase sitting on the kerb along the main A23 out of London, and remarkably without damage. As for dating designs from Libochovice, success is difficult unless we can find them in the records of the BoT Design Registers, now at TNA at Kew - they exported to the U.K. via British importers/agents during the inter-war period through Hoskins Ros. also apparently through another import company by the name of M. & H. Guggenheim. The company was a very long lived one - 1911 - 2006 apparently, though the designs in which we're interested would be generally from 1920s to c. 1950s - at a rather uneducated guess I'd suggest this design was originally somewhere around 1940 - 1950 - perhaps someone else here is able to narrow this down.
1940 might legitimately be called late deco, but 1950 is stretching the period too much, but that's to overlook the fact that 'deco' is an association word that increases the value of a design so it gets used inappropriately, often. :) Sorry to hear of the damage.
Much of the above information comes courtesy of Marcus Newhall's book 'Sklo Union' (it apparently means 'pressed glass') - published 2008. If you can find a copy it should ideally still contain the CD which details the factory designs and original catalogues.
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It's so great when you find free stuff on the street, especially glass that's not damaged. I've found some very nice pottery pieces also. I'm in South Wimbledon so know the A23 well.
I'll be looking out for the book, I did come across it during my online searching, but it's expensive and I might just find it at the Jumble sale, you never know...
I have a pair of perfume bottles which I'm pretty sure are Art Deco, given to me by an aunt in France, I'll need to post them on the message board if I can't find them on Google.
Thanks again for the help and welcome to the GMB community
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art deco is definitely over used, but there's no denying its appeal. It's really a name tag for a style, and something need not have originated in the twenties or thirties to qualify, though most 'art work' from that period probably will - a piece of art or glass or whatever can legitimately be deco if it shows the hallmarks of that era, even though it was made yesterday. Look forward to seeing your scents/perfumes.
As for the book, as always it depends on how much you want it - the copy on Amazon may seem a little pricey, but if you've no other way of acquiring the catalogues then it could be seen as value for money - can't really see this one turning up at a jumble sale ........... are there still such things? :) Perhaps boot fairs have taken their place - those in the Epsom area are usually v.g. for pressed glass.
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I know what you mean about Art Deco when people are selling, original pieces are very stylish. I have some at home and I love the era, but I don't buy them unless they are free or Jumble Sale cheap.
I'll photograph the perfume bottles and upload. They are probably Czech and almost surely 1930/40's. They're not marked, it's such a pity glass is nearly always not marked.
There are still Jumble Sales, though not many since Covid, and some have hundreds of books - though, as you say, highly unlikely to turn up at the jumble. Anyway, you have been kind enough to give me the pattern number.
I have been to Hook Road, but I prefer Walton...( worked op the clock tower many moons ago) Kempton Antiques Fair is great too and sometimes turn up in Raynes Park. Bought a lovely 'Art Deco' shade there for £15 which sold for £73.
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Hi - notice that you don't have a GMB contact envelope for pm contact. Just a thought, but if you wanted more details on the Libochovice catalogue, or others from the Sklo Union database, I can provide if of interest - you'll need to send me a pm - via the Board - and I will then send information. Just a suggestion. :)
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Hello and welcome to the board CarolineS. I just wanted to flag up that the PM system on the board doesn't work between members, it only works from moderators to members, but if you want to contact Paul I am happy to act as a relay for you both as my email is accessible from the wee box to the left of this post.
I'm also interested in your perfume bottles, as an avid collector and researcher of glass trinket sets and all things related to them, so I look forward to seeing your photos of them.
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this appears to be a change to the system then, Anne? - am sure there was a time that it was possible to communicate with others, through the Board, via that little envelope. I have in fact sent a couple of messages in recent times to someone here, not realizing it was no longer working - no wonder I didn't receive replies !! I thought the whole idea of showing the envelope was so that people could chat through the Board? Of course, thanks for the offer of being 'the go between' :)
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Sorry Paul, no it's always been a one way system for Moderators to use to message members, the board owner decreed it should be that way when we switched to this board software years ago.
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thanks Anne - obviously I'm losing the plot ;) - but on reflection a wise and sensible course of action bearing in mind potential problems. So, you receive/see all of our words sent via that little envelope - and forward all of them to the member in question - now I understand and thanks for the explanation. :)
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No I don't Paul, they don't come to me, they just disappear into a black hole somewhere in the system. The only messages I see are those system messages telling me there's a problem (tech stuff) or reports to moderators (from members via the links on the board), or when a member replies to an update notification email by email as those bounce to me to deal with - those I do respond to and redirect them to the topic to reply in on the board. Complicated innit? :-*
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clear as mud Anne, thanks ;D So, we contact you and you forward to a requested recipient - I should think Caroline has long since lost interest and emigrated. ;)