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Title: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on March 14, 2022, 08:46:48 PM: My wife bought this home today after going shopping. A very large round pink vase with aventurine and it's big. It looks very like Monart but cannot find the shape. The nearest being a lamp base. We have checked some Vasart and Strathearn.

Height 10.5"
Diameter 10"
Weight 3230gm

Thanks Roy
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on March 15, 2022, 08:14:56 PM: Some better natural light pictures.
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on March 17, 2022, 06:30:48 PM: Still cannot match it the vase to a Monart shape and I do not think it's a lamp base. Am I missing something obvious.

The nearest vase shape and colour that I can find is a Schneider vase is that just a coincidence that Salvador Ysart worked for Schneider prior to moving to Scotland.

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/decorative-objects/vases-vessels/vases/art-deco-french-schneider-bulbous-variegated-red-glass-vase/id-f_13633262/

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Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 17, 2022, 06:39:52 PM: I've been quiet because I'm clueless. I don't like the "laboratory bottle" sort of neck for Monart on this.
The glass itself looks right, it's got the applied button, but there is something not quite right, to me, about the neck and its rim.
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on March 18, 2022, 06:23:42 AM: Thanks Sue for your reply as it had been very quiet.
Salvador was making experimental Pieces as told in the link below.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.bohaglass.co.uk/modern-glass-art-monart-glass/&ved=2ahUKEwiXmsa8gM_2AhV7QEEAHeZlCKcQFnoECAUQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0S14ZDXbtNb54MBF7h806-

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Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 18, 2022, 01:49:51 PM: I'm not sure about the accuracy of the report in the first link - I've just skimmed it.
Monax was lab ware. And lighting - big white lampshades.
There's a pic of Isobel with the queen mother stuff, you can see the decanters have sloped elegant necks. But not round bodies. ::)

I might not like the lab bottle neck, but they did make lab ware under Monax.

There are uncatalogued bits, especially when it comes to lighting.
I think you need a Gary or so to pop in. ;D
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on March 20, 2022, 04:53:01 PM: Thanks Sue.

I think until proven otherwise I am going to think they must have made experimental uncatalogued pieces during their long career and this could be such a piece.

That may wake one or 2 people up.
Thanks Roy
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 20, 2022, 04:59:31 PM: That looks exactly like Monart. ;D
I'd agree with your conclusion too. I just want a definite yes from a Gary.
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on March 22, 2022, 06:32:26 PM: Thanks Sue for your reply , looks like we are still on our own.

My wife and daughter found it in a charity shop on a shopping trip. I get pictures sent to me, with the bright sun I could not see a lot and said no but she insisted and said she thought it was Monart.
They had to take turns carrying it back to the car.

Thanks Roy
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 22, 2022, 07:36:59 PM: My family have a very unusual and completely massive round-ish apple green lampbase which isn't catalogued. I'd say it's a good bit bigger even than this. Such things do exist.
I can't remember what the top was like, and it's in storage.

I really don't see what else this could be. I just want a Gary to put all doubts away, nice and tidy. :)
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on March 29, 2022, 07:17:57 PM: If Salvador based his vase on the Schneider vase in the earlier link where he worked prior to moving to Scotland and my vase was made say1921/23 just prior to Monart being formed in 1924. Would it still be classed as Monart or just Salvador Ysart. All very hypothetical , we may never know for sure.

Roy
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: Gary on March 30, 2022, 08:17:20 AM: It is a Monart piece. It is shape AH with stopper missing.
Gary
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 30, 2022, 10:18:48 AM: I did think the neck looked funny. It's missing something. ;D
Thanks, Gary.
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on March 30, 2022, 07:26:40 PM: Thanks Gary for the positive ID . Would appear to be not a very common piece stopper or no stopper.

Please feel free to use pictures or ask for any others if they can be of any use to any one.

Thanks again Roy
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: flying free on March 31, 2022, 10:09:22 PM: It's a beautiful find :) And lovely to have confirmation it's Monart.

It reminds me a lot of Schneider vases especially the colour and the shape, but I don't think the way the colour is laid on is done in the same way Schneider colour is. Having said that Schneider made a huge variety of pieces so maybe somewhere there might be something similar I guess.

Thanks for sharing. It's fabulous.

m
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on April 01, 2022, 07:39:56 PM: Thanks m for your reply.

I think it is based on a Schneider vase similar to the one in the link below.

https://www.1stdibs.com/furniture/decorative-objects/vases-vessels/vases/art-deco-french-schneider-bulbous-variegated-red-glass-vase/id-f_13633262/

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Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: flying free on April 01, 2022, 09:18:41 PM: Possibly I suppose it could be. But the way the colour is laid on and the colouring methods used are not to my eye the same.

I think they both look very different and that both are magnificent pieces in their own right :)

m
Title: Re: Looks like Monart but is it ???
Post by: mhgcgolfclub on April 02, 2022, 05:38:10 PM: m I agree with you 100%

I think what I was trying to say was the actual shape of both vases is very similar and there most likely is a connection of Salvador having worked for Schneider before moving to Scotland.