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Title: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: Liam59 on March 21, 2022, 09:54:33 PM

Pretty heavy in weight, ground pontil as in images. No signatures visible but looks a good piece.
Height 20.5cm top width 18cm. English? Italian?

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: NevB on March 22, 2022, 01:48:58 PM

I posted this similarly shaped/size vase a while ago and am still not sure who made it but would lean towards Powell/Whitefriars.

https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,69808.0.html

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: Liam59 on March 22, 2022, 02:47:43 PM

Just looking through my copy of "20th Century Glass" and on page 95, plate 185 shows vases with a similar wave pattern made by "Gray-Stan" glass, what do others think?

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: Lustrousstone on March 22, 2022, 04:17:26 PM

Which 20th Century Glass; there's lot of books with that title.

Nev your vase isn't Powell/Whitefriars; their uranium was limited to straw opal and their output is very well documented

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: Liam59 on March 22, 2022, 06:40:31 PM

It is the book by Charles R Hajdamach for the Antiques Collectors Club.
Thanks

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: flying free on March 23, 2022, 04:47:49 PM

I don't know if it IS Gray-stan, however as soon as I saw it yesterday that is the name that popped straight into my head :)


I'll have a look through all the Gray-Stan stuff I have here and see if there anything comes to light.  Will have to be this evening though.

m

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: Liam59 on March 23, 2022, 06:43:38 PM

Thanks flying free. From what I have gleaned, apparently all pieces were either etched "Grey-Stan" or the designers name and mine is not. Could still be I suppose.

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: flying free on March 23, 2022, 07:29:28 PM

No, I have a definite piece of Gray-Stan glass - large piece, and it's not marked.

m

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: flying free on March 23, 2022, 08:10:14 PM

I've just been through all my resources apart from one which I can't find and I'm afraid there is nothing to match it either in shape or colour or decor - the pulls/feathers on the decor don't look quite right somehow.
  I found one piece with a similar shaped foot/base but only the one out of the many I looked at. 
I'm not convinced it is Gray-Stan.  I'm also not entirely sure the pontil finish is right.  So on balance I'm thinking probably not at the moment.

m

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: Liam59 on March 23, 2022, 09:18:24 PM

Thanks again, I will just have to keep looking around and asking, someone may nudge me in the right direction.

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: flying free on April 26, 2022, 04:31:47 PM

So there is an image on the GMB and for comparison of trailing although these were handblown and made so all different I guess - this is a Gray-Stan jug in the V&A:

https://collections.vam.ac.uk/item/O4650/gray---stan-jug-billinghurst-a-noel/

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: Liam59 on May 27, 2022, 01:20:37 PM

Thanks for the info. My piece is also handblown and the trailing on the linked piece looks very similar.

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: flying free on May 27, 2022, 02:24:24 PM

It does but there were many makers who trailed glass :)

Also the pontil mark and the colour don't feel right.  mmm, I'm erring on not to be honest but I could very well be wrong.

m

Title: Re: Heavy pink vase with white controlled swirls
Post by: Liam59 on May 31, 2022, 08:47:38 AM

I have written ith mages to the V&A to ask for help with this piece, I await there reply. Hopefully there glass department may be able to help one way or another and I will update here of course.