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Title: Textured Bowl - Possible SU? ID = "Aztec Candy Dish" item no. A1 197 made in GDR
Post by: robbo on September 08, 2006, 08:52:44 PM

Hi,

I bought this bowl today:

Bowl (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3264)
Base (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3263)

I wondered if it may be Sklo Union - the base looks ok, and the texture *looks* related to some of Vizner's designers  :?: (possibly the general shape too :?: )

Many thanks for any ideas!

robbo

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: Sklounion on September 09, 2006, 04:18:11 AM

Hi Robbo,
This is unlikely to be Sklo Union, though I can see why it might be mistaken as such.

Possible candidates are Walther, and one of the Polish companies, that made a pattern called "Asteroid". Name escapes me but I'll get back to you.

Regards,

Marcus

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: robbo on September 09, 2006, 01:37:44 PM

Thanks Marcus -

I must admit, I'm not sure if the colouring is original, it does flake off with a fingernail!

robbo

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: Max on September 16, 2006, 06:38:14 PM

Robbo.  I bought this today:

So I can at least tell you your colouring is original.  And some of this pieces enamel/paint has flaked off too.   :roll:

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: Anne on September 16, 2006, 08:02:09 PM

Ahhh I saw one in a charity shop in Grange the other day... no marks as far as I could see, but identical looking item complete with coloured dots. Probably from memory about 5" diameter (saucer/teaplate size) and about 4" tall?

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: robbo on September 16, 2006, 08:37:16 PM

Thanks Max & Anne -
At least I know to stop picking at it now!
Anne, that is the approx. size.
It's not a bad little bowl - the mould lines are very well disguised. I think it's a three part mould. On mine you can just see two of the lines, very faintly, on the rim.

It's funny how things like this always seem to appear in multiples, it must be the charity shop glass breeding thing. Hopefully not on the same scale as Ravenshead Siesta. I think every shop I go in has that! :o

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: Sklounion on September 21, 2007, 07:31:49 AM

Hi Robbo,
It has taken over a year, but.......the bowl of yours, is, as I thought, not Sklo Union.
This is a pattern known, or at least marketed in the UK as, "Aztec", a candy dish, and a boxed example clearly states "Made in GDR" (the former East Germany). Manufacturer is still unknown at this time, though VLG Lausitz is a serious possibility.
Regards,
Marcus

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 21, 2007, 11:46:20 AM

Asteroid was something that cropped up years ago, when I was trying to get the vase with in- and out- round lumps identified.
It was Ivo mentioned it at the time, it was this stuff that was being referred to, and I seem to remember it was Walther.

....Ivo??

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: Sklounion on September 21, 2007, 12:07:44 PM

"Asteroid" was Zabkowice, and designed by the Drosts.
Regards,
Marcus

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: chopin-liszt on September 21, 2007, 12:23:57 PM

Thank-you, Marcus.

 :huh: If this bowl is Aztec, what does Asteroid look like?  :spls: I've thought this was Asteroid for years!

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: robbo on September 23, 2007, 08:30:29 AM

Thanks Marcus - at least we were in the right part of Europe  :)

robbo

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: jonchellycain on March 08, 2013, 04:28:13 PM

Thought I would just add some pictures here to confirm the name of this piece. I picked up 3 today all boxed and like brand new doubt they have even been out of the box. The box I would say is late 1970's early 1980's, wording on the box;
Aztec candy dish adds style & beauty to any home item no.A1 197 made in GDR
my mum got real excited as it has the old fashion quality street wrappers not that I remember these :)
michelle

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: chopin-liszt on March 08, 2013, 04:38:57 PM

Yay!
I do keep telling folk we don't give up and that we do get there in the end. Thanks so much, Michelle.  :-*

But does GDR refer to Walther or to WMF or... ???

Whoops! edited to point out that I've just realised GDR is not the same thing as Western Germany, which I have written on a label on a bit of quite recent WMF! Geography is not my strong point... :-[, and history is a major failing.

And we're still fumbling about in the dark about Asteroids....
(I can't see any Cracknels in the pic on the dish. They don't make Cracknels any more and they were my favourites! :'(  I got excited too!)

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: jonchellycain on March 08, 2013, 04:41:28 PM

sadly no makers name though. so it may be another 6 years till will get a confirmation on which factory

Title: Re: Textured Bowl - Possible SU?
Post by: jonchellycain on March 08, 2013, 04:54:34 PM

Sue where Cracknels those horrible ones in the blue wrappers. I like the orange and strawberry ones.
I think GDR is in reference to German Democratic Republic former East Germany ?? but my geography is terrible. I am sure it could narrow down dates (but only on this box style).

from wiki, re GDR
"existed from 1949 to 1990"