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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: mhgcgolfclub on July 12, 2022, 04:39:58 PM
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Help please to ID this very large Jade / Jadeite bowl which is not uranium.
It is quite old with a large polished pontil and a convex centre to the bowl and stepped sides.
There is also some flux within the glass.
Diameter 14.5"
Height 3.75"
Weight 1.8k
Thanks Roy
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Stevens & Williams Alabaster is possible if non uranium.
John
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Thank you for that.
I would also say that it was very translucent.
Roy
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Really, you can see shape through it?
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Yes I can see shapes quite clearly.
I had it on a duvet and could clearly see the shapes..
I will try to add a couple of pictures later to show this.
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Is the green colour flat or does it have some faint swirls?
Some years ago, I had hold of a very large Cloudy Powell vase. It was very like this - particularly with the greyish appearance on the outside which shows in your second and fourth pics.
I've found an image of a blue vase which is very like the green one I had for a short while.
Some of the cloudy Powell is very sparse in decor and the clouds very unclear.
http://www.memoryprints.com/image/143274/james-powell-and-sons-whitefriars-ltd-vase-in-blue-cloudy-glass-20th-century
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II am not sure Sue, I will have a look again outside when it brighter.
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That is certainly more translucent than the enormous vase I had hold of briefly (I thought it would double up as a rather substantial toilet brush holder) and the glass was very, very thick, nearly half an inch.
I was just chucking an idea in, but I suspect it's not a very good one. Sorry.
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Thanks for trying Sue.
Roy
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I also think that's likely to be S&W 'alabaster'. It has that look and the glass itself has that remarkable something which gives it a sheen no other maker I've seen has on their opaline glass.
Is it possible (I know, I'm annoying) to have a picture of the pontil mark where the light shines on it so the size can be seen for comparison please?
S&W 'alabaster' range was made over a long period and in my experience it does vary slightly in terms of appearance. Not it's translucency but I think whoever was blowing it at the time had some say on what it looked like. I have some pieces which are tiny, quite thin and with the white stems etc, and then others that are really quite thick with a variation on the colour within the body of the piece. One which is almost Dragon's blood red on the interior but very pale on the exterior yet it's not possible to say it was cased by looking at it for example. I think once it got to the inter war years or the 1930s fashions changed.
m
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Thanks m
I did try but not easy, the pontil measures 3.25" max to about 3".
Roy
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That's a large portion polished off. Sounds right to me given the size of the bowl.
Thank you for the extra pictures :)
m
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I have a small S&W alabaster plate here, never noticed before but it too is surprisingly translucent. I have some photos on my phone but will have to resize them later when I get home before I can add them.
I think I can see white spots in your photos of the green bowl - consistent with known S&W Alabaster wares.
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It also has a strange appearance on the outside wall, i.e appears paler than the inside colour. This is the same as a couple of lidded boxes I own. Bizarrely it's as though instead of the white of the stems and knops found on some pieces, the white was used to very finely case the coloured opaline on the inside.
There's something about S&W alabaster and no other maker I've found has the same appearance in their opaline glass.
m
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Are the lidded pots as thin walled and translucent as this plate and Roy's bowl? I remember them as fairly chunky.