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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: jmoore44 on August 05, 2022, 03:58:26 PM
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Hi,
I need help with identification of unusual art glass vase with Aesthetic Movement enamel decoration on crackle opalescent. Any ideas? Thanks for your help. -Jody
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Hello and welcome. :)
This is certainly going to get some others here very excited. I'm getting out the popcorn and waiting to hear what they will say.
This is older than my area, but a beautiful piece.
I think the glass the enamelling is on might be called girasol.
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Girasol if it is of Italian origin I think Sue, this vase looks to have a purple tint especially the handles which is different.
How tall is the vase Jody? A photo of the base would be good too please. Would tend to agree it has the look of one of the Bohemian makers.
John
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:) That's my thing learned for today, so I can switch off now. Thanks, John. ;D
I did notice the purple tint, but was totally unsure if it was supposed to be there or if it might even be sun purpled. It's not just on the handles - I can see a tinge of it on top of a "roll" on the neck.
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Hi!
Thank you for your help. The handles are translucent purple while the body is a more milky opalescent color. It measures 6 inches tall and 6.5 inches across the handles. Here's a few more pics showing the top rim, the bottom and a close up of the handle.
- Jody
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Maybe Fritz Heckert would be my first thought? I'm not sure on the enamelling though. The design of the enamelling cartouches looks quite French Aesthetic to me but the execution maybe Bohemian especially with the flowers etc.
This site has a pair of opalescent vases they say are signed and by Fritz Heckert
https://scottishantiques.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=26027
However that said ... I'm never sure which items were made after Fritz Heckert started producing their own pieces or which were enamelled by them but made for them by perhaps Josephinenhutte?/Harrach?/ Loetz?
The crackle opalescent and purple handles and something about the shape might make me think Harrach for production. I think they used the purple (not sure on this though) on some of their 'Auguste Jean' type pieces? c. 1880 ish? I don't recall seeing anything in their book though. I'll try and have a look later.
Gorgeous piece. Envious :)
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;D I've been waiting for you to turn up to see your thoughts and comments, Flying-free.
Do you think there is any purple on the body? I can see some where there is a bulge on the surface then look along the top of the bulge where you are looking through a "deep" part of the very surface, because of the bulge.
The ring of thicker glass around the base is also quite purple.
(I know what I mean!)
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Page 250 of the Harrach book shows a vase c.1885 that has a similar style of enamelled panels. It says this type of decorated panel ‘reflect a growing interest in Japanese art’.
There’s a similar sort of thing and a bit about ‘Japonisme’ here:
https://www.collectorsweekly.com/stories/31539-enameled-french-vase-in-the-japonisme-st
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Hi Sue ;D
I think the apparent colour showing on the OP's crackle vase is just down to the opalescence to be honest. However the handles are amethyst aren't they?
The Collectors Weekly piece is interesting.
Personally I probably wouldn't buy a piece purporting to be by Galle, Leveille, or Auguste Jean unless it was correctly signed. However that's just my personal red line specifically on those makers' pieces. Every single time I've looked at a piece unsigned but apparently deemed to be by Leveille or Auguste Jean, there is something about the piece that makes me feel it isn't by those makers. That said, my knowledge is very limited.
I'm sure there must be lots of glass as yet unknown and perhaps there really was unsigned pieces sent out from those houses but I know I don't have the knowledge to make that judgement though so I wouldn't risk my money.
Example of a very expensive unsigned piece here from Christies -
https://www.christies.com/en/lot/lot-a-french-japonisme-gilt-and-silvered-bronze-mounted-6203754/
On the CW piece, the cartouche is in a similar style to the OP's here isn't it? Both in terms of design and execution and quality. I wonder if it has a polished pontil mark ?
The original vase in this thread does not have a polished pontil mark does it?
I only have a few books on French glass but will have a look through next week.
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In the Harrach book (page 241) it says they used publications such as L’ornement Polychrome by Racinet for the motifs ‘most frequently reproduced, in an almost unchanged form’. So possibly when the style was popular there were many manufacturers copying from the same document. It would be interesting to find the original design they copied but might not help with an attribution...
I’m sure with Galle, Leveille, or Auguste Jean I would hit my red line of price long before having to worry about authenticity ;D
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oh yes, that red line too of course ;D
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Is the vase cased in a layer of amethyst? It looks like it is, especially that purple ring around the base. Not that this helps in any way...
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Or maybe a thin purple slightly iridescent coating?
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I took the vase to some natural light and looked for that purple to show better. I agree that it's just the opalescence making it look that way. I can only get a purple cast to it at certain angles. It also has a flat, unpolished base with no pontil mark.
That Collector's Weekly link is very helpful and I think that's sending me in the right direction. Thank you so much for your help and kind comments for a newbie like me!
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We do still like to see flat unpolished bases with no marks. They can be quite different to each other and are always informative. Often, it's the sort of "nothing there" that can be the tell.
Thank-you for showing us such an interesting and lovely piece. :)