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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: neilh on December 23, 2022, 10:23:35 AM
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Has anyone seen something like this before? It comes from a collector in the northwest.
In some ways it looks like a Dartington tankard but in other respects it appears to be Victorian. It has some age, and a density value typical of c1880 for the region, yet I see no sign of this general shape in 19th century catalogues.
So far as I know, a one off.
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Could it be continental? A long shot but there are similar ones in the Stolzle catalogue. I think some souvenir pieces were also made in Belgium and France.
https://www.glas-musterbuch.de/Stoelzle-1878.179+B6YmFja1BJRD0xNzkmcHJvZHVjdElEPTc1NDkmcGlkX3Byb2R1Y3Q9MTc5JmRldGFpbD0_.0.html
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A moulded souvenir piece from Blackpool is more likely to be English IMO, considering the cost of moulds. If it was enamelled or engraved that might be different
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With a moulded souvenir glass like this, wouldn’t they make a mould of the main item but with an interchangeable piece for the shield? So they could use the same expensive main mould but then make a relatively inexpensive shield insert for Blackpool….and another one for Bognor Regis and wherever.
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The shields on the Inwald souvenir glasses in this pressglas korrespondenz are said to be interchangeable (see the second half of the red text on page 2):
https://pressglas-korrespondenz.de/aktuelles/pdf/pk-2015-1w-kuban-inwald-becher-sisi-1898.pdf
There is also a picture of a catalogue page of souvenir type glasses and two have “zum anderken” in the shield - translates as “for souvenirs”, maybe that means you could ask for your own text.
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Hi ,for those interested here’s another ‘present from Blackpool ‘16cm ht glass ….possible rummer ?,It’s engraved with the vine and wheat ear type decoration and has an applied handle ,my guess is English .
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I have this one but with two handles, like a trophy. There are a number of these, largely with the names of northern towns. The base glass is a common one which was made by several manufacturers in the area. The Derbyshires were certainly active here, and used this pattern, but the densities I have for these are a slightly better fit for Molineaux Webb. Likely several makers.
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Thanks Neil , fantastic info .I have a half pint glass which probably from the same stable , with the slightly un pc ‘for a good girl’ engraved on one side..I would think a tourist piece again.