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Title: Molineaux & Webb 732? or Henry Greener Goblet?
Post by: NevB on September 24, 2023, 12:52:07 PM
These would appear to be M&W 732 goblets shown here:

https://sites.google.com/site/molwebbhistory/the-history-of-molineaux-webb/registered-designs/molineaux-webb-unregistered-pressed-glass/molineaux-webb-catalogue-drinking-vessels

Height is 7", weights 523 and 531gms.
Title: Re: Molineaux & Webb 732? Goblet
Post by: neilh on September 24, 2023, 06:07:28 PM
This was the sort of pattern everyone did, so unfortunately being sure on a maker is not viable.. though of course a density test can narrow the field slightly.
Title: Re: Molineaux & Webb 732? Goblet
Post by: Ekimp on September 24, 2023, 06:44:57 PM
The stem on yours, Nev,  looks different to the drawing of 732, it’s hard to see from the angle of the photo. The knop on the drawing looks more blended into the stem whereas the top part of your stem looks parallel with a more sharp transition into the knop.
Title: Re: Molineaux & Webb 732? Goblet
Post by: NevB on September 25, 2023, 11:12:41 AM
 Neil, I wasn't sure of the attribution, hence the question mark, I make the density around 2.4. Ekimp, yes it doesn't exactly match the drawing, but I don't know if they were always entirely accurate.
Title: Re: Molineaux & Webb 732? Goblet
Post by: NevB on September 25, 2023, 12:00:08 PM
I've just found this mark, it's on the side at the bottom and difficult to make out the full mark but I think Davidson 1880-90.
Title: Re: Molineaux & Webb 732? Goblet
Post by: NevB on September 25, 2023, 05:53:29 PM
Having looked at the image in Colin R. Lattimore's press moulded glass book and looking at my mark from all possible angles I now believe it to actually be the 1st. Greener mark from 1875-85. It's deceptive because it looks nothing like the illustrations of the registered trade mark.
Title: Re: Molineaux & Webb 732? or Henry Greener Goblet?
Post by: NevB on September 27, 2023, 07:36:25 AM
Pamela has this photo of the mark on a centrepiece in her Greener section.

https://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/tafelaufsaetze/09544.jpg