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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: LEGSY on December 22, 2023, 01:30:32 PM
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I recently found a decanter that made me quite excited due to it having some of the best cutting i have found to date
on a decanter of its kind We felt that the antique shop where we bought it from were about correct on it being from the
1820-30 period when steam cutting was being used to create beauty and complexity. Having found a few examples of
similar cutting online being described as peacocks feathers as a favourite of John Fords and also having a hollow peg
mushroom shaped stopper. Virtually all the decanter has been cut really well in my opinion the lip where the stopper sits
is quite thick and the hole quite narrow for the long peg stopper quite an unusual stopper not one i have come across before?
The Holyrood Glassworks John Ford & Co pattern books would be great to get hold of i wondered if anyone knows of a place
to view them , I had noticed somebody online saying that they can be seen but sadly i am the opposite to an anorak on a computer
so though i would mention it here and see if anybody can point me in the correct direction for more information please thank you.
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another picture ..
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Looks very much of the period. Very nice. The stopper treatment of the neck and shank below the cutting very unusual for this period I cannot recall ever seeing similar in English or American cut glass from this period. The cut bladed rings a bit different, usual treatment being faceted.
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The book 'From Goblets to Gaslights' The Scottish Glass Industry 1750-2006 by Jill Turnbull includes a CD which includes a copy of the John Ford catalogue /pattern book.
Not sure of the year but the scan is copyright of the Rakow Digital Collection at the Corning Museum of Glass. Had a look at the collection online but could not see the pattern book listed.
Bought the book for my Christmas present, reading it at the moment but forgot about the CD until seeing your post. Book itself is worth getting, will let you know if I find your decanter, but there are nearly 450 pages of catalogue on the CD to go through.
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Appreciate the comments and agree with them wholly i certainly did have a look at the online version of the book you have purchased
but as you said was unable to access the online catalogue but have asked the museum to point me in the right direction also so might
end up buying another book or possibly there downloads :) In any case its an odd ball as mentioned the stopper good cutting though
amazing what they could do with pressurized water :)Thanks for looking at the info appreciate your help :)
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Pretty sure the steam mentioned refers to steam engines powering the cutting wheels via belts.
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I may have misunderstood part of your post, At first read I thought possibly you were implying that steam/pressurized water actually cut the glass, if so, my bad.