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Title: shippams paste jar
Post by: photoimp on January 03, 2024, 05:50:26 PM
Hi, only started to do digs, but have had a lot of luck. Today I found what looks like a shippams past jar, but doesn't have the name shippams. Reg n0 653358, the 8 is hard to make out! Where i dig i have found 7 of the usual size shape. But this one blank.
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: bat20 on January 03, 2024, 06:07:16 PM
I think we need some photos with a close up of the base 👍
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 03, 2024, 07:07:12 PM
I can smell the stuff right now...  :-X
I do know what the jars look like. They have bellied out bottoms and vertical ridges. I think there is a flat bit for the paper label to stick to.

Welcome to the board, photoimp.  :)
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: photoimp on January 03, 2024, 08:09:43 PM
Thanks for the welcome, a lot of paste jars, there seems to be a dumping area near what was a woodman's cottage. each of the marked shippams paste jars are the same in every other respect. But each one does have a different number on the base.
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: chopin-liszt on January 03, 2024, 08:20:48 PM
Were there ever mass girl guide and boy scout camps using the area?
Or sunday school picnics?
They can't all be from a woodman.  ;D
Unless he was collecting them to use as tealights...

Perhaps the numbers refer to the version of the paste in the container?
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: NevB on January 04, 2024, 08:49:55 AM
The Registered design number 653358 is shown here, so the jar will be sometime after that.

http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/regnos08.htm
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: Lustrousstone on January 04, 2024, 10:42:48 AM
The numbers on the bases of machine blown "things" is usually the machine number. Perhaps the woodman just liked meat paste: one jar doesn't go far
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: photoimp on January 04, 2024, 12:03:41 PM
Thanks all, what I can make out I think the dig area I'm at was a woodmans shed/shelter, all of the jars/bottles seem to date around the early 20th. So maybe a crew of woodman sheltered there and over the year the paste jars were thrown. Interesting point about numbers and content. The unmarked shippams paste jar doesn't have any number on the base as well as no shippams marks on it, but is the same size. The whole embankment of the cottage has produced a lot of finds. This area is strange since there have been very little broken crockery, just some glass, tiny German Vaseline jars and loads of Shippams paste jar. 9 in total. I'm returning on Monday,( I do gardening for the land owner). so will up date then! Photographs soon!!
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: photoimp on January 06, 2024, 02:56:33 PM
Me again, took a shot of the blank shippams past jar. No number where as all the others have numbers ranging from 6 to 49!
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: bat20 on January 06, 2024, 03:00:54 PM
Hi PhotoImp , I found this online, there’s a few old bottle forums that might have more information as well .

https://marketlavingtonmuseum.wordpress.com/2012/02/29/shippams-paste-jar/
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: photoimp on January 06, 2024, 03:17:38 PM
Thanks bat20!! I will keep everyone posted!
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: bat20 on January 07, 2024, 01:37:17 PM
No probs , I love bottles and always pick them up if I find something interesting about them .They are unburdened by artistic angst !, l’m looking this one up at the moment.
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: photoimp on January 08, 2024, 01:59:04 PM
Old bottle?? or one caught in a fire. With what i have read the bubbles mean a cold pour, also known as a dirty pour, I also read that there were ones call wobbly tops.
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: photoimp on January 08, 2024, 02:00:28 PM
Wasn't able to get to the dig site today.....snow stopped play. Maybe Wednesday!
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: bat20 on January 08, 2024, 03:48:11 PM
Not sure?,but I think it is old , dip mould (maybe wood and kept wet)to the line and then free blown and tooled.Looks a bit hock like in shape .Good luck Weds .
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: photoimp on January 10, 2024, 03:23:23 PM
Wasn't able to get to the dig site today.....snow stopped play. Maybe Wednesday!
Well made it despite the cold. i had left a hole in the ground and let the land owner know. Returned today and... another 5 shippams paste jars! only one bit of broken china and nothing else. All in the same area, i have left the jars with the land owner in case she wants any of them. Problem is a felled tree trunk is right in the dig path so will have to get creative in a way of moving it. It could be next Monday before I go back and clean and collect the jars.... maybe I should change my name from photoimp to Mr Shippam!!
Title: Re: shippams paste jar
Post by: photoimp on January 17, 2024, 05:12:26 PM
Went back to the dig area on Monday. only had an hour spare and a tree trunk had to be moved away from the present hole. And yes two more shippams paste jar and a Milton amber bottle. The Milton is the third I've found in the area. Hope to have more time on my hands on Monday to dig a lot more!!