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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Pinkspoons on February 24, 2024, 05:41:40 PM
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Found these at the recent Runway Monday fair, chucked out on a blanket on the floor, and thought they deserved better care.
Not really my area, but I assume they're German, around the turn of the last century. Possibly Villeroy & Boch, Ehrenfeld, or someone similar? The quality appears to be there.
Also, I'm rubbish at flower identification - some variety of clematis is my best guess.
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They are gorgeous! I think the flowers are meant to be fuchsias not clematis.
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Thanks.
I don't know how accurate floral decor usually is, but although the stamen and pistil are right, these are lacking the tube and ovaries that fuchsias have at the top of the flower, and probably the inner petals (I'm rubbish at flowers, but my parents had a giant fuchsia bush in their garden when I was growing up, so it's one of the few I can easily recognise).
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Bellflowers?
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They are a bit bluebell-ish. :)
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I think I may just have to settle for generic 'nodding flower'! They seem to have elements of several flowers.
On the maker's front, I've been informed that Theresienthal is probably the best bet.
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There seem to be a few about and people don’t seem to know who made them. There are also versions with clear bowls with uranium stems:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/176234653556?mkevt=1&mkcid=1&mkrid=707-53477-19255-0&campid=5338722076&customid=&toolid=10050
They don’t appear on the Stengelgläser (stem glass) pages of this Theresienthal website http://www.roemer-aus-theresienthal.de I think that website is a good one and as your glasses are quite distinctive and not uncommon I would think they might show the design if it was documented or suspected Theresienthal?
Was there any reference given for the Theresienthal attribution?
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Sadly, no firm attribution - it was a long-time collector of Jugendstil glass that I know who is generally spot-on.
Armed with that, I stumbled on a set with the same distinctive stems on Uwe Wolf's site with the same 'probably' caveat, and he's generally pretty good, too.
https://glaswolf.de/neueingaenge/2222/jugendstil-5-weinglaeser-mit-emailbemalung-wohl-theresienthal-um-1900.
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A further poke of the internet coughed up this listing claiming that the model is called 'Liszt' (with no other mentions available elsewhere that I can find):
https://www.ebay.de/itm/285360787855
But then this page claims V&B, but still 'Liszt':
https://auktionen.auktionshauswendl.de/de/lot/lot-details/52683/6-weingl%C3%A4ser-liszt
There's a few more mentions of the design for V&B, but nothing tied to old catalogues.
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Thanks.
I don't know how accurate floral decor usually is, but although the stamen and pistil are right, these are lacking the tube and ovaries that fuchsias have at the top of the flower, and probably the inner petals (I'm rubbish at flowers, but my parents had a giant fuchsia bush in their garden when I was growing up, so it's one of the few I can easily recognise).
I have several different fuchsia patterned glasses and none of them have the bits you refer to Nic.
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Fair enough!