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Title: Who is S.Salviati ?
Post by: bat20 on March 14, 2024, 03:22:57 PM
Hi , I nearly walked passed this pice thinking it had a bit of lace glued to it, but thought I better check it out because of the rim .It’s 16.5 cm high with a broken pontil and signed S.Salviati (was there an S .Salviati ) and underneath Venisia , I think . The workmanship seems very good and the lace must be glass ,Any thoughts thanks .
Title: Re: Who is S.Salviati ?
Post by: bat20 on March 14, 2024, 03:38:27 PM
Couple more
Title: Re: Who is S.Salviati ?
Post by: Ivo on March 14, 2024, 03:57:21 PM
High enamel and gold like this is never no Salviati, perhaps it is s. for segun (according to)? The glass looks cheerful Spanish, so does the fan. 
Title: Re: Who is S.Salviati ?
Post by: bat20 on March 14, 2024, 04:13:24 PM
Could be ivo I’ll check it out , I had Bohemia in mind ?
Title: Re: Who is S.Salviati ?
Post by: bat20 on March 14, 2024, 06:56:41 PM
This is new to me , it seems Salviati made glass and sent it to Moser for decorating !?,could it be one of those ??
Title: Re: Who is S.Salviati ?
Post by: Ekimp on March 14, 2024, 09:13:24 PM
There are similar designs on glass signed Testolini: https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,18156.0.html

It looks like Testolini was a large company producing all sorts who then merged with Salviati. The same lace designs are also on Testolini and Salviati signed porcelain, so doesn’t seem likely to be enameled by Moser? Here is a biography of the company, it sounds like the lace designs were developed by themselves: https://www.ildiarioonline.it/2023/12/15/i-fratelli-testolini-nascita-e-morte-della-piu-importante-attivita-veneziana-dell800/

Testolini porcelain https://www.chairish.com/product/5364667/rare-antique-testolini-salviati-cobalt-blue-and-white-porcelain-gilt-tea-cup-and-saucer-set-10-sets

Salviati and Testolini porcelain (both names) https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/722392165/do-not-buyreserved-for-nrare-salviati?show_sold_out_detail=1&ref=nla_listing_details
Title: Re: Who is S.Salviati ?
Post by: NevB on March 15, 2024, 08:32:12 AM
Just to add, apparently there was a Silvio Salviati who died in 1920, the word underneath the signature is Venezia.
Title: Re: Who is S.Salviati ?
Post by: bat20 on March 15, 2024, 09:16:57 AM
Thank you so much Ekimp amazing , ands thanks Nev !.As usual I took the longer country lane route mainly in the world of antique lace fans!,it does look like Italian lace .I would imagine there were a lot of fixed smiles from the more aesthetically minded of the Saliviati contingent during design consultations with the Testolini lot ,but it is a marvellous piece as a part of early 1900 Venice/Murano history and you can really imagine it in the window of a Venetian lace shop window.Thanks again .
Title: Re: Who is S.Salviati ?
Post by: bat20 on March 15, 2024, 10:07:11 AM
Here’s one more from the back .
Title: Re: Who is S.Salviati ?
Post by: bat20 on March 16, 2024, 06:08:59 AM
For those interested this piece makes more sense with a brief dip into the very long history of Venetian lace .

https://lauramorelli.com/burano-lace-a-history/