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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: glassaddict on September 19, 2006, 02:54:40 PM
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Hi all,
Does anyone know anything about this? it is approx. 30cms (12") tall
It has 'REG'D DES No 910569' on the bottom and the number 1513E
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g294/bananabons/Unidentified%20Glass/greenbottlevase.jpg
http://i59.photobucket.com/albums/g294/bananabons/Unidentified%20Glass/Greenplainvase.jpg
Many thanks,
Hil
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If British then it indicates it was registered in the 1960s.
See http://www.great-glass.co.uk/glass%20notes/numbers.htm
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Thank You, I have bookmarked that site now :D
Does anybody know who made it?
Thanks
Hil
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Looks like a commercial liquor bottle to me.
Check 1960's home mags for drink adverts with the shape.
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I think Frank's right. I seem to recall seeing these years ago but I cannot remember what they contained. They were made into lamp bases (after the contents has been consumed) using those push-in adapter things, as having a wide base they were fairly stable.
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Thank you both for your replies - I have found another one for sale on Ebay described as
A BEAUTIFUL GREEN BRITISH ART GLASS BOTTLE /VASE.
........ maybe I should buy it and make a pair of lamps ... a creative present for someone I am not fond of maybe?
Many thanks
Hil
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Since I posted this - I have been able to find out that it is an old Bulmers cider bottle from the 1960's - but I have forgotten the source of the information. ::). Will try to find out were I got this info from.
Hil :spls:
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Well, Google led me here - I have one of these too and I wondered if anyone knew anything more specific about this bottle please? The photobucket links to the pictures previously posted still appear to work and mine is exactly the same.
Am curious.
Thanks for your help
L
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Am still convinced it is a Bulmers cider bottle from the 1960's. Where are you located Aquamanda?
Hil :)
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I'm in Lincoln
I've Googled but nothing for Bulmers
I've found 2 on ebay but they obviously have no clue as to what they are either!
I'm not ever so bothered, just bugging me now lol - Did you make a lamp? :D
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haha no lamp - my friend saw it and wanted it, so it is sitting in her conservatory now :)
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not so sure this helps with a maker - I'm not well up on soft drinks companies - am assuming these people were into soft drink and not hard liquor ........... R. N. Coate may have made this bottle, but unlikely in my opinion.
Two pix attached, and obviously a popular and successful design since there were two extensions, each of five years - am sure I've seen this shape somewhere in the past.
If any part of the Register text is illegible, let me know ........ I have other pix of that page which I can magnify.
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So, not a Bulmer's Cider bottle, but a cider bottle nonetheless. I remember Coate's cider being sold in just such a bottle from the early- to mid-1960s and for quite a long time afterwards.
There was a well-remembered jingle to their TV adverts which was portrayed catroon yokels singing"'Coate's comes up from Zummerset, where the zider apples grow".
Coate's cider factory in Nailsea was first opened in 1788 and was bought by Showerings of Shepton Mallet in 1956. The brand was subsequently merged with Gaymers and absorbed by Matthew Clark Brands. See: https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/2129935491 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/2129935491)
I'm not sure who manufactured the bottle but there was, of course, a long history of glass making in the area.
Fred.
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just struck me as a coincidence that the mention of the year that Coate's opened his cider factory in Nailsea of 1788, was also the date that John Robert Lucas opened his bottle and window glass making, two furnace glassworks, in the same town. He'd already had experience of glass making in Bristol apparently.
He'd be shot today, building as he did on a green field site, but we'd not now worry about his poaching staff from an established glasshouse in Bristol, but which at the time cost him an appearance in court. Obviously back then they viewed enticement of journeymen and workers as a major sin.
His Nailsea works was very successful, enabling him to die a very rich man, and it seems that by 1835 his glassworks was the fourth largest in the country (don't think they meant county), and his gamble of sticking to utility wares such as window glass and bottles was a very wise decision.
But all good things come to an end, and his Nailsea furnaces eventually became cold in 1874, due to consolidation of the industry in areas of better materials plus the failure of his locally sourced coal. The site is now a Tesco store.
It's tempting to think that John Robert Lucas may well have supped on occasions from a glass of Coate's cider. :)
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Paul, thank you for checking the archives again, and also to Fred for remembering Coates' cider... armed with that info, look what I found: a Coates' advert showing this very bottle shape!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/13582184803/in/photolist-67mAqb-4fqLxH-4fdtBH-mGdfm4 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/brizzlebornandbred/13582184803/in/photolist-67mAqb-4fqLxH-4fdtBH-mGdfm4) :)
I think we can pin this one as well and truly identified, even if we don't know who made the actual bottle.
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I have one too and can confirm they were made for Bulmers Cider
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Definitely Coate's not Bulmer's. I've just been reading more about Coate's, and this paragraph is relevant to the green bottle under discussion, which was called a Quartet: (my emphasis in the quote)
In 1961 Coate’s introduced the half-gallon pitcher which was a radical departure from the traditional flagon bottle. Success was immediate with sales in excess of 1,000,000 within a year. Two years later the ‘Quartet’ was added to the range, an emerald green bottle of distinctive bulbous body and long tapering neck. This contained ‘Triple Vintage’ a strong cider first produced in 1951 along with ‘Festival Vat’ to celebrate the Festival of Britain.
Here is one shown with its original label still in place: https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/259166346/vintage-green-bottle-lamp-coates-triple