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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: essi on June 26, 2024, 10:04:49 PM
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A very nice find today. Not my normal field of collecting but this had such a good look i had to buy it.
Credit to Kevin and his wonderful love decanters website.
The pattern is called Moire and was produced from 1907 to 1930.
My pictures do not do justice to the subtleties of the manufacture of this decanter.
The engraving shows grapes and a leaf i'm not sure which type.
The body is 10 inches tall and 13 inches with the stopper in. the body is 5 inches in diameter.
Tim
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Nice. Those will be vine leaves ;)
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Hi - lovely decanter - pity it's not mine:-) Sorry, going to be picky now .......... going back some way when I had Hajdamach's book on C19 glass, we spoke of the Various Thomas Webb glass patterns in said book - one of which was 'moire' - at least I thought it was from T.W. - perhaps it wasn't T.W. I forget the dates it was used, but presumably - like many of the T.W. patterns - it started life in the latter part of the C19, and from what I remember it was a geometric construction of overlapping curved lines - producing what might be described as a slight shimmer effect - whether it was a genuine lift from the Persian/Iznik period I don't now remember. Memory seems to be useless now - I don't even remember if T.W. Registered the design. I'm slightly confused now ......................... when you say 'the pattern is called moire', are you referring to the engraving - the shape of the bottle, or something else. I've only ever known moire as the T.W. decorative feature of overlapping lines - an effect that is suggestive of Persian/Iznik.
P.S. 'moire' was definitely a T.W. decorative pattern.
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I'm bemused as the Webb Moire shown in the British Glass 1800-1914 Charles Hajdamach, is a sideways W pattern going from top to bottom of the tumbler shape it's shown on in the drawing. It is on page 433 and falls under the heading ' 4. Optical Surface Effects'
Paul I think (unless I've misunderstood) the pattern you're describing was actually called Moresque and turned out to be by Stuart in the end:
https://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,5410.msg99233.html#msg99233
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thanks for the sleuthing m - I've probably lost the plot completely - just that I thought there was a decorative pattern called moire , but am sure it is seen on glass. Rather lost without the books. thanks. I don't have Hajdamach's book now.