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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: NevB on July 09, 2024, 02:24:13 PM
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I think this rather plain 6cm. tall open salt is more interesting than it appears. It is a very pale green but glows well, has some fine rippling in the glass bowl and loads of wear on the foot indicating it has a bit of age. I've searched for one the same but with no luck however the pedestal urn pattern is favoured by several French makers.
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Is the wide rim curved or flat Nev?
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The rim is curved Christine, here's a photo and another to show the profile better.
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Probably wishful thinking, the closest I found was the 2367 by Baccarat. It's listed as "sans pied/without foot" so perhaps there was another version "a pied" as they say. I don't think mine dates back to 1840.
https://opensalts.us/References/Catalogs/France/FRA-LaunayHautin1841-mW.jpg
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I did wonder if it was actually a candlestick: I regularly turn them the right way up in charity shops and antique centres. With the very pale green uranium, I think I would look at Brockwitz
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I don't think the design is right for a candlestick because the inside of the bowl isn't straight sided, it tapers from 2" at the top to 1" at the bottom. I've had another look at Brockwitz but found nothing.
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In terms of colour, the shade of green reminds me most of my uranium Chippendale handled salt from c1920, I wonder if it dates from that era, or maybe a reproduction of an earlier pattern.
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Yes Christine and Neil, I think the colour hints more towards 1920s-30's Czech or German, but I can't find anything similar.
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I've just spotted this, No.307, not what I expected, looks identical to me.
https://sites.google.com/site/molwebbhistory/the-history-of-molineaux-webb/registered-designs/molineaux-webb-unregistered-pressed-glass/molineaux-webb-catalogue-salts
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Yes it could be. I've turned up a dozen salts from those pages as I get a collection together for my Manchester glass books... not found that one though. Most Molineaux Webb green is moderate to fierce green, see salt 309 attached. If it was MW it would be 1920s revival. They dusted off a few moulds from the 1850s for their post WW! range of Lancastrian Crystal Glass.
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Thanks Neil, would you like a photo of it? If so I will email you.
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Sure, send it along. I'm planning to add a chapter on early pressed glass salts to my Manchester book in the Appendix, a mix of Manchester salts, selections from 150 examples I picked up at auction, many of which we went through with a top expert in US salts.
The purpose was to see if there was much overlap between salt patterns in the USA / UK / Europe. The general pattern is that up to c1850, there is a lot of overlap across the continents, although in the UK, lacy salts were never made, as far as we can tell. So your speculative MW 307, dating to c1850s, is likely to appear in the catalogues of other companies of this date... if only they had survived.
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Very nice to see the dark green of that MW salt Neil. Thank you for sharing.