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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: essi on August 25, 2024, 12:04:59 AM
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Bought today advertised as a cake stand. Am i right in thinking this is an earlyish English tazza?
It has a moulded stem and a lovely domed and folded foot.
Broken unpolished pontil scar.
I'm not sure if the slightly clouded stem is as made or it is some defect.
It has decent wear marks on the outer edge of the folded foot, one piece of frit and one small bubble on the top section.
5.5 inches tall, top section 8 inches wide and the bottom section is 5.75 wide.
Green reaction to UV light.
grateful for any comments.
Tim
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Seems to be the real deal. For the most part comparable with one I have. I dob't think the cloudiness in the stem intentional.
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Yes nice Georgian footed salver or tazza, 1780 ish. There’s even a book just on these cake plates, Glass in Eighteenth Century England: Footed Salver
Kelsall, R.K.
https://scottishantiques.com/georgian-table-glass/Candlesticks-lighting-lamps-tazza-and-stands/?product_id=34351
Regards Mike
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very nice piece ................. as to the slight green reaction under the u.v., have a look at this ........... https://libanswers.cmog.org/faq/143996 . Weren't there some comments from back in the 1970s - 1990s - about a well known British maker's wares, that the slight cloudiness in a particular stem was the remnant of the 'glass blowers last breath' - might have been a piece from somewhere like King's Lynn or Wedgwood Glass ;)
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Thanks those who responded to my inquiry.
Very pleased to have this piece of glass in my collection.
I'll live with the cloudiness in the stem and remember the quote about the glass blowers last breath :)
Thanks again,
Tim
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Very nice find.
Here's a similar tazza that I have with two jelly glasses. I think mine is late 18th Century, 1780-90 ish. Domed and folded foot, hollow stem, folded top rim and slightly wonky sitting top as you can see from the way the jelly glasses are sitting. Have read that on the 19th Century tazza's fairly early in the century they started turning the folded foot rim up instead of down and underneath. Not sure how true that is and whether all manufacturers followed the practice. I've only ever come across one anyway!
Cheers
Keith
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Lovely example Keith.
When looking for examples of my tazza ,one comment i saw was that they were good for displaying other items of old glass on top.(in modern times)
Such a plain shape but lots of character. I read along the way somewhere that cake stands did not have a raised edge (not sure if that is true)
The pictures of tazza's in situ on the table i have seen show them loaded with fruit or food.
Tim
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Hi essi
Tazza's were used back in the day for sweetmeats, kind of like dessert type food, which were served from smaller bowls such as the jelly glasses in my pictures. Different sized tazza's were even stacked on top of one another with the serving glasses standing around the outer edge of each layer.
The Georgians new how to dine, although they ate some pretty questionable food by our standards!
Cheers
Keith
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I don't know anything about the glass but I think the cloudiness in the stem is intentionally opalescent.
m
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Thanks for the input M, would be interesting if its right.
Will have a look about to see if there is anything similar.
Tim
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I think the stem has been blown in opalescent glass then cased in clear.
As I say, I don't know anything about the making of these types of very old items but I guess it could haeve an applied bowl and an applied foot i.e. made in three pieces, with the stem being made decoratively and deliberately opalescent - in much the same way a goblet or footed bowl might have a multi spiral twist stem maybe is what I'm thinking.
m
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My money is on clouding. In your second photograph the clouding (or whatever) looks a bit patchy. If you have a look with a x10 loupe it should be clear if it’s just clouding on the inside surface.
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I agree with Cagney and Ekimp that this is a possible answer - and I know nothing about this era of glass.
However, just to add that opalescence in glass does actually look 'streaky' or 'patchy' - it isn't a uniform colour if you see what I mean.
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Hollow blown decanter stoppers have been known to mist internally. I don't think this is deliberate.