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Title: Possibly Ichendorfer bottle-shaped vase
Post by: chilternhills on October 31, 2024, 04:43:53 PM
Is this bottle-shaped vase Ichendorfer Glashütte, Bergheim, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany made in the 1960s?

The main body of the vase is green about 5mm thick and the applied rim is clear glass, about 15mm thick at the join and 12mm at the margin. The rim is applied and not just turned over. There is a clear join that is easily felt with a finger going over it.

The vase stands 23.5 cm high.

The pontil mark on the base has been ground out round and is shallowly concave.

The base is clear glass and is about 15mm thick.

I have found similar, but not identical, vases online saying Ichendorfer. Can anyone say for sure what this is, please? I note that there is a company called Ichendorf, Milano. What is the connection, if any, between Ichendorfer, Germany and Ichendorf, Milano?

Thanks for your assistance.

Anton
Title: Re: Possibly Ichendorfer bottle-shaped vase
Post by: glassobsessed on October 31, 2024, 04:52:03 PM
I thought these were from Ikea but I see someone on Etsy is claiming made by Gral Glas. We can't all be right!

John
Title: Re: Possibly Ichendorfer bottle-shaped vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on October 31, 2024, 06:48:06 PM
I used to see Ichendorfer (Gerany) batutto vases in TKMaxx, probably about 15 or more years ago. They were tall and wide bottle shapes, in a dark brown colour
I think that's the only place I've seen any labelled bits.
Title: Re: Possibly Ichendorfer bottle-shaped vase
Post by: chilternhills on November 01, 2024, 09:57:52 AM
Adding that thick rim, in a different colour of glass, surely must be too much of a faff for mass production for the likes of Ikea or TKMaxx. Maybe I'm wrong. It seems to be mouth blown rather than machine made in bulk. The apparently simple form of the piece is deceiving, in my opinion. I didn't notice the complications myself to start with.
Title: Re: Possibly Ichendorfer bottle-shaped vase
Post by: Ivo on November 01, 2024, 12:56:08 PM
https://ichendorfer-glasmuseum.de/
all you ever need to know.
Title: Re: Possibly Ichendorfer bottle-shaped vase
Post by: chopin-liszt on November 01, 2024, 07:09:13 PM

TKMaxx buy up and sell unsold ends of ranges of stuff.
You can find top quality stuff there, if you're lucky, there at the right time and can recognise it.
Title: Re: Possibly Ichendorfer bottle-shaped vase
Post by: glassobsessed on November 03, 2024, 08:03:40 AM
The unpolished pontil mark really should be a bit of a clue, in a way it says more about what it is not than what it is. You tend not to find them on mid century European glassware whereas you do often find them on contemporary mass market products.
Title: Re: Possibly Ichendorfer bottle-shaped vase
Post by: chilternhills on November 03, 2024, 07:23:46 PM
The pontil mark is actually polished. Thanks Ivo for the link.
Title: Re: Possibly Ichendorfer bottle-shaped vase
Post by: chilternhills on November 03, 2024, 09:14:17 PM
There is something similar on pages 45, 52  and 59 of the 1973 catalogue. The one on page 52 matches for height.