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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: imaztribabe on January 02, 2025, 10:49:51 PM
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Picked this up at a local thrift shop. Google Lens brought up Steuben, but not sure if it is. It does glow under UV, and pretty sure it contains manganese, as the stopper and decanter glow yellow. It weighs less than a US pound; approximately 6.5 inches tall, and just under 5.5 inches across the bottom. Looks to have a pontil mark on the bottom. There are no markings on it. Prelim research says that not all Steubens are marked. Any and all assistance would be greatly appreciated.
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It's in the shape of a ship's decanter, although it's quite small, but I can't remember seeing a decanter with the spiral around the neck, usually it's individual rings. One by Steuben is shown here:
https://www.replacements.com/crystal-steuben-7912/c/561835
It's difficult to tell but yours seems to have quite a lot of wear on the base, perhaps indicating it has some age. I assume the strong manganese glow is produced under 365nm. UV light, this might also indicate age. I can't identify the maker but I wonder if it might be European.
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Manganese in clear lead glass generally used as a de colorizer. According to the book THE COMPLETE CUT & ENGRAVED GLASS OF CORNING Steubens clear lead formula post reorganization c. 1933 and beyond did not need a de colorizer. Paul V. Gardners book THE GLASS OF FREDERICK CARTER devotes 98 pages to design shapes pre 1932 taken directly from the Carter archives, of this 7 pages are devoted to decanters and your design is unaccounted for. Pictured is a signed and dated Steuben vase lighted with a 366 long wave U.V. lamp.
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Unfortunately that is very unlikely to be the original stopper as it sits too high in the neck. You shouldn’t be able to see the top of the plug part.
Andy McConnell calls that type of neck ‘snake-ring’.