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Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Glen on October 02, 2006, 12:22:14 PM
I promised that I would show some photos of the Brockwitz Display that we assembled at the CGS (UK) annual convention this past weekend. I'll be adding much more in due course, but here is a short "taster".

http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/BrilliantBrockwitz.html

Glen
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Della on October 02, 2006, 12:30:33 PM
:shock: WOW :!:  :!:

I was wondering where on earth you kept it all  :lol:  but then I read that it belongs to various members.  8)

Fabulous :!:
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: josordoni on October 02, 2006, 01:10:11 PM
it looks amazing collected together like that, a glittering feast of tangerines and plums!
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Anne on October 02, 2006, 02:25:39 PM
Gosh! Glen that is amazing... I'm dazzled! Thank you for a cheery page on a gloomy day. :)
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 02, 2006, 06:47:54 PM
Beautifull  :lol:
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Glen on October 04, 2006, 04:38:30 PM
Many thanks Della, Lynne, Anne and Christine. It's good of you to comment and I'd like you to know how much I appreciate it.

I'd be grateful for any thoughts on what the shape / function of the Bremen item is (shown in the final photo...well "final" for now as I will be adding many more next week, I hope). Would you call it a vase or a jardiniere? It isn't a shape that I have seen in the Brockwitz catalogs, and I wondered what others thought it would be classed as.

Glen
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: josordoni on October 04, 2006, 04:52:29 PM
Quote from: "Glen"
Many thanks Della, Lynne, Anne and Christine. It's good of you to comment and I'd like you to know how much I appreciate it.

I'd be grateful for any thoughts on what the shape / function of the Bremen item is (shown in the final photo...well "final" for now as I will be adding many more next week, I hope). Would you call it a vase or a jardiniere? It isn't a shape that I have seen in the Brockwitz catalogs, and I wondered what others thought it would be classed as.

Glen


Do you mean the squashed hat?
I wouldn't call it a jardiniere, that is designed to have a plant pot in it and that looks too narrow for that.  I would call it a vase I think.  Assuming squashed hat doesn't suit... :lol:
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Della on October 04, 2006, 05:04:43 PM
Hi Glen,

I am not sure what I would call it.
The foot looks as though it should fit into something, or is it just me?
It sort of looks like an oval posy.  :?  

I am eagerly looking forward to the next installment.  :)
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Lustrousstone on October 04, 2006, 07:04:12 PM
I have a large vaseline squashed hat, although not such a deep base, with a flower frog to match. I vote vase. Was there any internal scratching as seen after a frog has been in and out for 70 years?
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Glen on October 04, 2006, 07:58:29 PM
Many thanks for your thoughts and ideas.

The piece isn't mine, and although I handled it I can't for certain recall the interior. I don't think it had scratching at all. I haven't seen any Brockwitz Carnival vases with flower "frog"/holders before (but it is always possible).

I think you're all right - I agree too - it is a vase. It's a big item, and heavy, by the way. I think it's best to maybe refer to it as an oval vase.

Thanks again  :lol:

Glen
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Anne on October 04, 2006, 11:47:03 PM
Della's right, Glen, the foot/base does look unusual: as if it should fit into something else?
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Glen on October 05, 2006, 08:08:31 AM
Della and Anne - many thanks for pointing that out. I've been chewing it over, and I can see exactly what you are saying. It's possible that it is just a quirk of the pattern that gives that impression. There is an incut ridge that encircles the pattern, both above and below the "leaf" motifs. It does give the impression that it is a groove that something might fit into / onto. But I wonder if it is just a quirk of the pattern.

I haven't seen anything similar in Brockwitz catalogues (maybe I need to pore over them again though, as I wasn't looking for this shape in the past). Brockwitz certainly did team up metal work with glassware sometimes - they used metal tops on some flower bowls - so I suppose a metal base / holder is a possibility.

It occurred to me that if the piece had a handle, it would be a large basket. That outward flare and the oval shape, coupled with the narrow base are very much like the basket shape.

I was hoping that Pamela might have seen something similar to this shape. If you read this, Pamela, have you seen either this shape before (as big as this) and / or have you seen many examples of Brockwitz Bremen.

And again, thank you Della, and thank you Anne.

Glen
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Della on October 05, 2006, 08:55:04 AM
Hi Glen,

What I actually pictured in my mind, when I saw the vase, was something like this (http://www.carnivalheaven.com/carnivalglass102/id105.htm), but with the one large vase in the middle instead of the usual 3.

I am probably way off.  :roll:
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Glen on October 05, 2006, 09:03:57 AM
Hi Della - thanks for the further explanation. Your link shows a Northwood epergne - and I see what you're saying. But  think that the size of the Bremen oval vase would eliminate it from being part of an epergne. Brockwitz certainly did make single trumpet / horn epergnes, but the dimensions of the Bremen piece would (I think) make it too big for that purpose.

I'll see if I can get actual dimensions of the Bremen piece. It's a heavy, chunky piece of glass.

Thanks again, I'm really grateful for your thoughts and time.

Glen
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: pamela on October 05, 2006, 07:40:49 PM
I shall be able to contribute a Brockwitz BREMEN basket and a small plate within short, so sorry Glen, having neglected these for long.. :cry:
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: pamela on October 14, 2006, 08:29:35 PM
done today and here I go with a BREMEN basket including a small dish


http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/henkelkoerbe/05331.html

Is this what was missed please?
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Glen on October 15, 2006, 07:58:59 AM
Pamela - many thanks for taking the time to share your photos.

What an interesting shape! The basket is wonderful - the shape at the side where the metal handle is attached is most unusual. Do you have any other Brockwitz pieces with this kind of fitting?

The little plate is also lovely.

Many thanks - I appreciate it greatly.

Glen
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: pamela on October 15, 2006, 07:33:08 PM
No Glen, I'am afraid this is the only Brockwitz item featuring a handle like this one. It is a large and heavy item. The plate at the right is just 'normal' in size, about 14 cms across and has a gilt rim.
I can also not report a similar construction at any other item within my collcetion.
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Glen on October 15, 2006, 07:37:23 PM
Thanks, Pamela. That is all very useful information.

And again, a splendid and unusual item. Many thanks for showing us the photos.

Glen
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Glen on November 08, 2006, 03:13:09 PM
I have now posted the full text of the "Brilliant Brockwitz" talk. If anyone is interested in reading it, go to my website and follow the link.
http://www.carnival-glass.net


Glen
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Lustrousstone on November 08, 2006, 09:18:56 PM
Fascinating as ever  :D  :D Thanks Glen.  A certain person's books are now beside my bed in the large non-fiction (i.e. glass) to-read pile  :D
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Della on November 08, 2006, 09:25:44 PM
Fascinating, Glen.  :D  :D

Thank you :!:  :!:
Title: BRILLIANT BROCKWITZ
Post by: Anne on November 09, 2006, 12:17:05 AM
Glen, thank you for this fascinating piece. I know little about Brockwitz so this has been a real treat. How sad that the company declined so quickly after its earlier success.