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Title: Orreffors or not? - ID = Strathearn
Post by: Ming on October 05, 2006, 01:19:36 AM

Hi

Just bought this small vase which l thought is a Orreffors. After checking the mark etched at the base with Orreffors, they are not the same. Now l don’t know who made it. Any idea?
Vase only 5” high and 2” outside diameter. The vase engraved with a small boy came back from fishing trip with a fish. It is very difficult to photo mark on the base therefore l drawn it myself please see photo.

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/courtoak/orreffors012.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/courtoak/orreffors010.jpg

Title: Orreffors or not?
Post by: Frank on October 05, 2006, 01:56:52 AM

Strathearn, Scotland

Title: Orreffors or not?
Post by: chuggy on October 05, 2006, 06:40:16 AM

Or possibly Kosta, I've a couple of Kosta engraved vases only signed with labels.
Paul

Title: Orreffors or not?
Post by: Ivo on October 05, 2006, 07:08:02 AM

The vase could be either Kosta, Orrefors, Johansfors, Sea Glasbruk or Iittala, but Kosta is the most likely as they often supplied unsigned blanks for engraving to decorator shops of which there were many. The flat surface on the oval section is particularly suited for decoration.
Unable to figure out what the mark is - I'm not convinced by Frank's leaping salmon. Have you tried putting the piece on a scanner under a black cloth?
I have one similar item with a minute signature which was impossble to decypher; it turned out to be Peill & Pützler commissioned for Lenox, USA, so it had both marks mixed.
And what does it mean "vase came back from fishing trip with a fish" - I want to hear the rest of the fairy tale!

Title: Orreffors or not?
Post by: Frank on October 05, 2006, 09:19:03 AM

I was not going by the mark but by the Strathearn shape blank and Strathearn engraving/etching.

Title: Orreffors or not?
Post by: Ivo on October 05, 2006, 11:39:29 AM

so - you can add that one to the above list  :shock:

Title: Orreffors or not?
Post by: RAY on October 05, 2006, 11:52:57 AM

i've had one or two vases in that shape by strathearn with different engraving on the front, got one somewhere with a tall engraving of a thistle, not marked on the base, as Frank knows most of the blasting marks just wear away over time

Title: Orreffors or not?
Post by: Frank on October 05, 2006, 02:52:44 PM

I have it marked or labelled somewhere.

Title: Orreffors or not?
Post by: Frank on October 05, 2006, 02:55:26 PM

Also it pops on eBay fairly often price depends on fishing collectors seeing them. 5 pounds to 50 pounds accordingly.