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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: Hotglass on October 12, 2006, 12:02:06 PM
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Vaseline Foot, Cranberry Body, Opalescent towards rim, copper wheel engraved. Acquired from England.
8cm 3 1/8" Polished pontil
against white
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3627
against black
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3628
A maker would be nice but I realise that may be unrealistic given the type of glass and lack of marks but I hope for confirmation or otherwise, that it originated from Stourbridge, England and that it is indeed copper wheel engraved.
Also age - 1930's ?
Any other info - a bonus.
Thank you
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Anyone ?
Guesstimates ? Stourbridge ? Webb ? Walsh ? "Bohemia" ?
If I had more glass of this type I'd buy Hadjamach but I don't - anyone here have it ?
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Funny, I thought I'd commented on this! (In my dreams, maybe! :? )
I have Hajdamach and I'll start looking through it, but I don't recall seeing anything like this. Will get back to this. (And probably find someone has beaten me to it :lol: :roll: )
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Similar foot seen on piece by Boulton & Mills Stourbridge (1863 - 1926) at Broadfield House Museum Aug 2008
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I have seen a LOT of vaseline glass and have never come across something like this. if you decide to sell it in some format, would sure like to be tipped off as to where I can find it!
No clue on when or who made it!
Mr. Vaseline Glass
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Is it optic 8-ribbed or optic 9-ribbed? If optic 8-ribbed, then that was Thomas Webb's favourite rib dip mould during the bright polished acid-etched period, 1936–39, even for pieces carrying three etched/engraved pattern repeats. See here (http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,22516.0.html).
The addition of a foot in a different colour is typical of S&W/RB Alabaster, see two examples here (http://www.great-glass.co.uk/library/lib2aa.htm).
It doesn't look like Walsh to me!
Bernard C. 8)
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It is 8 ribs Bernard. Is that enough to deduce Webb ?
Pattern
There is no repeat in the pattern and the asymmetry of the design is interesting and may suggest Japanese design influence.
There are two pattern elements with only small gaps between them so that there is engraving almost all the way round. The cutting / engraving is entirely grey / unpolished.
Element 1) looks like a ripe rice plant with 4 ripening heads beginning to droop with the weight.
Element 2) looks like the plant with 3 heads blowing in the wind.
From this I have speculated that it's actually a drinking glass for sake / rice wine but it's much larger than the oriental equivalent, holding 6-10 times the amount so maybe just speculation.
Ed.
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Also has a surprisingly long, clear and resonant ring of c5.5 seconds. Finally, any doubts I had about it being wheel carved have been dispelled by the depth of the cutting which I estimate to be more than 1mm in places. Ed
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It is 8 ribs Bernard. Is that enough to deduce Webb ? ...
Of course not. I made the error of attempting to be mildly humorous, always hazardous in an international forum. I was just making the point that you can choose more or less any feature of this piece to support any attribution. At least that is marginally more scientific than the general US technique, which is to assume that more or less any unmarked European Victorian handmade fancy is either Webb or S&W, although equally inaccurate!
Bernard C. 8)
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the general US technique, which is to assume that more or less any unmarked European Victorian handmade fancy is either Webb or S&W, although equally inaccurate!
How ridiculous is that?! Everyone knows there's Moser, too!
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Bump
Anyone seen anything similar in the past 5 years ?
I wrote to Broadfield House back then. Message sent twice but sadly no response.
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Not had any dealings with Br. Hs., although surprised they've not replied. I've discussed (via email) with the V. & A. only, and happy to say they've always replied.................tho that's not to say they always come up with an attribution. :)
If it's of interest, their contact details are ceramicsandglass at vam.ac.uk ....... closing up and using the rats tail, of course.