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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Chris Harrison on October 20, 2006, 10:58:37 AM
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This one has had me baffled for a while. Can anyone help?
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3739
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-3738
Bowl with 6 lobes to the base.
Flat ground base with plenty of wear. Ground circular punty mark in the centre.
100 mm d
60 mm h
Very heavy for its size at 800g
Not sure how to describe the colour. When you look at it closely from all angles in bright light, it appears to have a pale blue and emerald green swirly core, and to be cased in flint. In the gloom, however, the blue takes over, as you can see from the photos. It doesn't appear to be neodymium.
Anyone recognise it, or have any suggestions?
Thanks,
Chris
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Have you considered Whitefriars as a possibility? Just a thought, I'm in no way certain but it reminds me of the lobed vases and bowls they made. It might be worth posting a photo on the Is It section of Whitefriars.com even if just to rule it out.
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Hi Pip
Yes, thanks, I tried there a few months ago. Not even the slightest suggestion in reply!
The green is good for WF (e.g. the crystal-cased green optic vases of the early 60s) but the blue doesn't match Arctic or Sky, and I don't know of any 6-lobed WF pieces. That doesn't mean there weren't any, of course...
Oh, no! It must be one of those rare experimental items again... :-)
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Although the blue might be sapphire, I suppose. I've just compared it against a big Hogan lobed bowl and it's not too shabby.
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Can't say I've come across this in any Whitefriars catalogues etc But.......
That doesn't mean there weren't any, of course...
The base looks Whitfriars...ish, but the rim doesn't say W/F to me. Good luck with your search! Emmi
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Hi Emmi
This certainly isn't in any of the WF catalogues that are available on-line.
I have 3 sizes of their 9099 bowls/ashtrays. This rim is quite similar.
I suspect the 6 lobes will be the key to eventually finding a match.
Thanks,
Chris
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This appears to be a fairly rare piece of Whitefriars, designed by Captain H.J. Dunne-Cooke in the 1920s or 30s. Willie Clegg reckons it may be from the late 30s because of the colour.
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Ohhhhh how interesting, Chris. It's taken a while but good to have a result finally. :thup:
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Wow that's very exciting news :clap:
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Hi Chris, what colour would that be then? And is that the same Willy Clegg from the country seat??? :)
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Yes, 'tis the very same Willie Clegg.
The colour is mid-blue (sapphire or sky) with internal dark green streaks. Probably not too clear from the photos. They look ok to me, but then I have the original and know what they're supposed to look like. :)
Will dig it out and post something a little better in a day or two.
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Hi only noticed this item and thread just now thought straight away Dunne Cooke i have supplied quite a few to Willie including a massive signed one in those colours .jp :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :cry:
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This was put on IS IT? on W/F.com..............but the members seems mostly to have overlooked it for some reason. I thought it reminded me of Dunne-Cooke. Is it the same bowl.
http://www.whitefriars.com/isit_contents.php?ID=8386
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Yes, Em, see post 3 in the thread
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The one I am referring to was put on just a couple of days ago by someone else, not you
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Oops, sorry.
Yes it looks right, if the base has 6 lobes. It's a little smaller than mine, but the streaks and the shape look right.
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Se also: http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,63244.0.html
I have set the ID in the title of both threads.