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Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: KSilverMoore on November 11, 2006, 03:45:58 AM
Hi, I recently purchased a really lovely rose pink Daisy and Button tumble up set--a bedside carafe and a matching tumbler that fits nicely on top of it. The daisy and button pattern is accented by a drapery pattern--three times on the tumbler and on the carafe. The carafe is actually a bottle shape and is about 8 inches tall and about 3 1/2 inches in diameter at widest point. The tumbler is short and squat at a little less than 3 1/2 inches tall and 2 1/4 inches in diameter, with the daisies and buttons not going all the way to the top. The set is very well made, and in my opinion, it seems old, possibly Depression era or even Victorian. The quality of it reminds me of Hobbs Brokunier, and I know they made Daisy and Button items, but I didn't think they made this pattern in pink. The only other option I've come across in my research is Brokowitz, but I know nothing about this company and am not even sure they made any daisy and button items. I could post a photo, but I haven't had the chance to take one yet. Any ideas? Thanks!
Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: David E on November 11, 2006, 10:07:18 AM
Hi and welcome to GMB.

In all cases when identifying glassware, a photo would help incredibly. Someone might help based on the detail you give, but it may not be conclusive.

See the following topic on posting photos:
http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html

I was interested in your description 'tumble-up' set — I have a few myself but did wonder what the term used elsewhere was. In the UK I believe they are called 'bedside set'.
Title: Photo Size
Post by: KSilverMoore on November 11, 2006, 04:43:36 PM
Unfortunately my file size was too big to upload into the glass gallery and I'm clueless as to how to fix this problem. My husband's the photographer in our family, and he's not around. Any suggestions on such a lame technical issue would be appreciated.
Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: David E on November 11, 2006, 04:50:52 PM
Download a program called Irfanview http://www.irfanview.com and reduce the physical size of the photo (say, 640 as the largest 'pixel' dimension). Then save as a 'JPEG' using a modicum of compression (say, set the slider to '80').

Always use a different filename to avoid overwriting your original file, which you may need at some time.

Also refer to my own site: http://www.glassyeye.com and click 'Photos & Imagery' menu item, then 'How to... Edit Images' for a tutorial on Irfanview.
Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: Glen on November 11, 2006, 05:36:10 PM
Quote from: "DenCill"
I was interested in your description 'tumble-up' set — I have a few myself but did wonder what the term used elsewhere was. In the UK I believe they are called 'bedside set'.


Or a "night set", I think.

As a "by the way"......Carnival Glass collectors always refer to them as "tumble-ups"  :D

Glen
Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: David E on November 11, 2006, 06:36:50 PM
Quote from: "Glen"
As a "by the way"......Carnival Glass collectors always refer to them as "tumble-ups"  :D

Thanks for that: I assume that's the American influence?
Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: Glen on November 11, 2006, 08:09:57 PM
Actually I have seen them described in old English catalogues as "Carafe and Up", so maybe it's a hybrid that has evolved.

Glen
Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: pamela on November 11, 2006, 08:22:51 PM
Hi, this is one of the Brockwitz #Sturzflaschen# tumble ups and there are more on my site
http://www.pressglas-pavillon.de/karaffen/01302.html
is yours familiar to them?
Is there ANY mark inside, outside, bottom?
Scailmont Belgium is another proposal  8)
Title: Picture to Come
Post by: KSilverMoore on November 12, 2006, 02:37:58 AM
The bottle is very similar in shape to the Brockowitz bedside sets--with the long neck of the bottle and thick lip at the top of it, which is why I thought there could be a connection. I am trying to get a picture up and will do so as soon as I have to time to figure out how! Hopefully tomorrow. Thanks for all your help.
Title: Photo Gallery
Post by: KSilverMoore on November 12, 2006, 04:52:47 PM
I'm a bit frustrated because I did everything I was supposed to do--set to less than 96 dpi, resized to less than 1000 pixels x 1000 pixels, and made sure that my resized image is less than 200kb in total size--and though it said my photos were successfully uploaded, no photos showed, just a red X. I'd really like to get these photos up, but I'm not sure what else to do. Any further suggestions? And thanks for your patience.
Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: Anne on November 13, 2006, 02:25:02 AM
Sorry that you're having problems with GlassGallery. I've checked the logfile and it's not showing any problems so I'm not sure why it isn't working for you. Normally the red X means that the image cannot be placed - usually as it's too big, but if you have resized it then we need to look elsewhere.

Could you e-mail me the photos please and I'll try uploading them from here and then I can see exactly what's happening with them. (E-mail address in button below).  Thanks!
Title: Photos Finally Posted!
Post by: KSilverMoore on November 14, 2006, 10:38:10 PM
Here they are. Sorry for the photo quality, but I'm hoping it will be enough for an ID or at least for a new direction in which to search. I haven't found a company that made Daisy & Button in this rose pink color. The bottle is still a little dirty inside, so I would look to the tumbler for the true color of the glass.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=262
Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: Della on November 14, 2006, 10:51:35 PM
This one will do it for you:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/thumbnails.php?album=262

But I can't help with an ID  :oops:  sorry.
Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: David E on November 14, 2006, 10:59:22 PM
Thanks Della, I have corrected the original posting and deleted the incorrect link.

KSilverMoore: when posting a link, there's no need to use the 'url' tags - just slap in the address as it stands.
Title: Rose Pink Daisy and Button Tumble Up Hobbs?
Post by: Sid on November 16, 2006, 02:28:48 AM
Hello:

I have no idea who made this set, but I do know who didn't - Hobbs Brockunier.  Hobbs made a version of Daisy & Button in the mid 1880s long before this tumble up was produced.

Sid
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Title: Maker?
Post by: KSilverMoore on November 16, 2006, 04:32:33 PM
Yes, I was just being hopeful about Hobbs. Pink seems like a later color in daisy & button. The only item I've seen in pink daisy & button, aside from a fenton shoe in a totally different shade of pink, is a dresser set, but it doesn't have the curtain-like decoration that mine has. At this time, I'm guessing this set is from the depression era--as late as the 1940s. I would be very surprised if it was made later than this. Can anyone rule out Brockowitz too? Or suggest who might be the maker?