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Title: Identified : Scandy? vase = Dartington FT28 Vase
Post by: lyndhurst44 on December 17, 2006, 01:00:14 PM
Hi Everyone,
Here is a vase I picked up at a boot sale yesterday that I would like some assistance in identifying please?
My first impession was Holmegaard but who knows ???. It has a polished lightly impressed pontil mark.

http://i17.tinypic.com/47t9ve0.jpg

Thanks,

Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: Cathy B on December 17, 2006, 01:13:38 PM
Hi Bryn,

Would it be possible for you to copy that picture across to the glass gallery? Those tinypic links are very unstable and tend to disappear.

http://www.glassmessages.com/index.php/topic,6522.0.html

Cheers!
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on December 17, 2006, 02:14:16 PM
Hi Cathy,
Just followed your instructions , registration completed, but when I tried to download the image I received an error message informing me that my file was too large :o.
Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: Max on December 17, 2006, 02:17:08 PM
Hi Cathy,
Just followed your instructions , registration completed, but when I tried to download the image I received an error message informing me that my file was too large :o.
Bryn (not Brian)

Hi Bryn (not Brian)  Perhaps your photo exceeded the Gallery limits of 1024 x 1024 pixels?  Could you resize it a bit smaller and try again?   :)

Hmm...just checked your pic size above and it seems to fall in within the acceptable range.  Think I'll leave this to Anne, the expert, to sort out.  :P :)

Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: David E on December 17, 2006, 02:25:33 PM
Try Irfanview to resize (www.irfanview.com) - it's a freebie - and I've given some hints and tips on how to optimise images on http://www.glassyeye.com
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: Cathy B on December 17, 2006, 02:31:10 PM
Meanwhile, does anyone recognise the glass?
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: Ivo on December 17, 2006, 02:41:48 PM
not as such; I'd think it looks rather Zwiesel than Holmegaard.
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: Anne on December 17, 2006, 03:01:07 PM
Hi Bryn (not Brian)  Perhaps your photo exceeded the Gallery limits of 1024 x 1024 pixels?  Could you resize it a bit smaller and try again?   :)

Hmm...just checked your pic size above and it seems to fall in within the acceptable range.  Think I'll leave this to Anne, the expert, to sort out.  :P :)

There are two limits - and it falls within one but not the other. Size limits are less than 200kb in file size (the image is 313kb so it's failing on that one), and less than 1000 x 1000 pixels in dimensions (this means saving it at a resolution of 72dpi (dots per inch) to make it large enough to be able to see detail.)  ;D
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on December 17, 2006, 07:15:03 PM
Hi Anne,
I tried all the options including reducing it's size, saving at 72psi as advised etc but with the same results I'm afraid ::).

Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on December 17, 2006, 08:20:57 PM
Hi,
I took another photo, albeit poor with flash, and this has successfully downloaded. ;D

Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: Anne on December 17, 2006, 11:10:36 PM
It must still have been exceeding one of the limits Bryn... but the one you've added is fine... and it can be found here...  http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4357   8)
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on December 18, 2006, 11:03:55 AM
Thanks Anne,

Still no ideas on the Scandy though? I saw Ivo's post re Zweisel but all the Zweisel's I've seen tend to have some sort of vague pattern design. This piece has some age with lots of base movement marks and weighs 1200gms, stands at 17cms tall or just under 7". The colour I would say is Kingfisher.
 
Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: Ivo on December 18, 2006, 07:10:42 PM
Zwiesel with IE please, "zweisel" makes no sense @ all.

"Kingfisher" as a colour only refers to Whitefriar's - it does not travel well. Whitefriar's is a local celebrity only.

and: re size, weight, finish, use of colour and definition your piece is quite typical for Zwiesel (who also produced for WMF) - just this specific model has not been identified.


 

Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: Pinkspoons on December 18, 2006, 11:09:06 PM
I'd opt for Zwiesel or similar, rather than Scandinavian.

The few Zwiesel pieces I have are equally undecorated (aside from an optic rib tumbler vase) and one or two are in a loosely similar vein to yours.
Title: Re: Scandy?
Post by: lyndhurst44 on January 01, 2007, 10:15:49 PM
Hi,
The vase is by Dartington. Whilst searching through an old Dartington Catalogue for 1967 - 1968 for something completely different there it was before my very eyes, pattern number FT28, 6.5" tall. Kingfisher blue is also a Dartington colour.
The Scandy connection was there too as when the company was started in June 1967 the Managing Director was one Eskil Vilhemson A Swedish Glass Manufacturer who brought a team of Swedish Glass blowers with him to the Company's base in Torrington, (thanks Wikipedia).
Another puzzle solved.

Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Identified : Scandy? vase = Dartington FT28 Vase
Post by: Anne on January 02, 2007, 03:19:07 AM
Well done Bryn, another mystery solved. I've cross-referenced the image in GlassGallery and this thread for future ref also. :)
Title: Re: Identified : Scandy? vase = Dartington FT28 Vase
Post by: lyndhurst44 on January 02, 2007, 07:28:12 AM
Hi Anne,
And I would  assume the FT on the pattern number would refer to the designer Frank Thrower.
Cheers,
Bryn (not Brian)

Title: Re: Identified : Scandy? vase = Dartington FT28 Vase
Post by: Patricia on January 02, 2007, 10:04:16 AM
Dear Bryn
If you are the lucky owner of Dartington catalogues would you also have the one of 1983 with the FT338 acorn vase and the 1993 VA959/R acorn vase ripple in it? Even Dartington itself can not help me. And if you have them could I ask you for copies from them, fully reimbursing you of course!
Anybody else who can help is more than welcome too.
I'll be away for a few days but will check this board as soon as I get back, thanks for looking.
Patricia
Title: Re: Identified : Scandy? vase = Dartington FT28 Vase
Post by: Anne on January 02, 2007, 12:27:41 PM
Bryn, I believe it does.  8)
Title: Re: Identified : Scandy? vase = Dartington FT28 Vase
Post by: lyndhurst44 on January 02, 2007, 01:42:24 PM
Hi Patricia,
Sorry no i have no Dartington catalogues. However you may well follow the path I took to get my info. i first put Dartington into the Glassmessages search engine. After a bit of searching I found an entry entitled "Empoli? and two others". In the chat I found a link supplied by Anne E.B. to  Whitefriars.org. This link took me to a copy of the 1967/68 Dartington catalogue and also entries from the 1971 and 1972 catalogues. There could be more info to be gleemed here.
Hope this helps.
Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Identified : Scandy? vase = Dartington FT28 Vase
Post by: Pip on January 02, 2007, 03:30:27 PM
Hiya Bryn

Yep you're right about Kingfisher - it is also a Dartington colour, I sold a Dartington Kingfisher Nipple Vase not that long ago.  Although, it is quite a different shade from the Whitefriars Kingfisher, which is darker and deeper in tone, the Dartington Kingfisher is much paler by comparison.  Thanks for posting the update on this vase - very useful info.
Title: Re: Identified : Scandy? vase = Dartington FT28 Vase
Post by: lyndhurst44 on January 03, 2007, 09:40:28 AM
Hi Pip,
Thanks for that. I often check out your Ebay site, there's usually something of interest to me.
Pamela, Don't know if you are aware but there is an exhibition of Frank Thrower's designs to be held at the Dudley Glass Museum between 14th July and 28th October 2007. May be worth a visit although I know that Frank died in 1987.

Cheers,
Bryn (not Brian)
Title: Re: Identified : Scandy? vase = Dartington FT28 Vase
Post by: Anne on January 03, 2007, 09:59:39 PM
Btyn would you like to add the exhibition details to the Events forum please?  8)