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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Bohemia, Czechoslovakia, Czech Republic, Austria => Topic started by: flick on December 23, 2006, 10:36:46 AM
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Dear All
Here's a small (7 inches) moulded vase that I found in my very last trip to my favourite charity shop in Geneva. I couldn't leave without buying something. I have no ideas about it at all and am interested to see what you come up with.
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l36/flick1066/DSCN0685.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l36/flick1066/DSCN0686.jpg
http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l36/flick1066/DSCN0688.jpg
The last of the base is a bit blurry, but I don't have much time as ALL the shopping has to be done in one day :o
Hugs and Christmas kisses to you all.
Flick
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Rudolf Schrötter, Bullet Vase, as identified by Marcus Newhall. See http://sklounion.com/SkloUnion/Sklo1.html
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Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cathy that was quick! Thank you.
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I don't think I've ever seen one in clear glass before, so it could be a nice find Flick. :D
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Yes Max, I've not seen a bullet vase in clear either - I've got them in various sizes in amber, green and blue but no clear ones.
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I also have a colourless one. One of the first vases that I purchased too.
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I wonder if distributors in certain countries chose not to purchase clear ones? Could explain the dearth in the UK.
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Thanks to all of you, it is wonderful when others can do the ID bit.
Please note: I must make it clear that the UK use of the name "bullet", for these vases is causing problems, as that translates to the French "Boule" which these vases are definitely not, of that pattern, also by Schrötter. This has been remarked on as a potential source of problems by Ing Siegmar Geiselberger, of www.pressglas-korrespondenz.de, and we may need to find a less-potentially confusing name or number for these vases.
Re colours, I'm not sure what the reasons are why certain colours are more common than others. I am aware that materials shortages from time to time meant that occasionally, items that were made in coloured glass, were produced anyway, just to satisfy demand. These I have seen in several countries, including the UK, in flint, so I would not be prepared to make any comment on colour scarcity. Unlike Whitefriars, there does not appear to be records of pieces by day, or how many in which colour.
I have heard idle chatter, that cobalt blue is scarce, but that is one of the colours Bohemia is best known for, and used at most major glass-works, so I personally would not give that much credence.
Certain items were only made in flint, but many have turned out to be made in wide ranges of colour.
I would advise people not to get carried away with notions of greater value for allegedly scarce colours. Why?
The Sklo Union factories made thousands of pieces a day in pressed glass. Even when glass colourants were in short supply, and the colour of the batch varied slightly, they still made thousands of pieces.
The one aspect of this that David makes, regarding importers, is that there does appear to be a sign that clear versions of patterns had well-defined markets. I am still exploring this as I write, so it would be pre-mature to expand on this at the moment.
Regards,
Marcus
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I wonder if distributors in certain countries chose not to purchase clear ones? Could explain the dearth in the UK.
I was chatting to a lady at a carboot earlier in the year with a large collection of Czech glass she was selling off, and apparently she bought them when they were new... from Woolworths. So blame them. ;D
I'm guessing other shops sold them here, though.
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Just to add a couple more to the mix, how about these colours for the *bullet* vase? Straw yellow, and amber. http://www.fragiledesign.com/glassShowcase.html - pic detail here:
http://www.fragiledesign.com/glassPics/holmegaardbulletslarge.jpg (image says Holmegaard but description says maker unknown!)
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Amber is very common in the UK. The pale yellow less so, but I think Anne B posted an image of one at sometime. Still not rare, or even scarce IMHO.
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Hi,
It is difficult to tell precise colours,on the images, Anne.
Very light yellow, the Czechs refer to as citrin, then there is a very bright yellow and then amber.
Regards,
Marcus
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Marcus, is there any update on what we ought to call the pattern? Should we just change the title to omit the bullet vase reference?
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Hi Cathy,
This vase pattern has no name, like a great many other pieces of Sklo Union production. The !962 exhibition at UPM describes the vase as having four lenses. To apply that as the name would add to the number of vases described as "Lens" vases, but imho is less problematic than leaving it as "Bullet".
Regards,
Marcus
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If no official name can be found, then I think the author can be given the right to call it what they think is most appropriate. Is this not the way it works in the world of Carni glass?
However, I tend to think the name 'Bullet' is now synonymous with that vase, perhaps?
And I still think This Vase (http://www.sklounion.com/SkloUnion/Vizner65hh.html) by Frantisek Vizner for Hermanova Hut' should be called a 'Tetris' Vase ;D