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Title: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: josordoni on January 02, 2007, 03:12:20 PM
This is delicious, lilac glass casing a frothy middle bit with lots of sparkly avventurina.. Sides are flattened, and there are small tool marks to the sides too.  Quite a bit of wear around the flat ground polished base.  It's only tiny, 2.5 ins 65 mm across the top.

Obviously Murano I would think but by any particular maker?


http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4431  dish
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4430 base
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: Sue C on January 02, 2007, 04:39:42 PM
Hi Lynne, could be Carlo Scarpa, there is a similar one in 20th cen glass only it's green, the description say's ,internal foil inclusions, and ramdom bubbles c1939, :-\ hope this helps
                                                          Sue C x
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: josordoni on January 02, 2007, 05:03:16 PM
Hi Sue, do you mean the one on Javier's Svazzo site? 
It certainly looks similar, doesn't it!

Javier, where are you???  What do you think?
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: Sue C on January 02, 2007, 05:36:59 PM
Hi Lynne, no the one in the book, 20th cen glass, but yes it is very similar to the one on javier's site :)
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: svazzo on January 02, 2007, 06:19:24 PM
Looks like it could be Venini, but did you look to see if its signed?
Another suggestion is Seguso Vetri D' Arte.
Javier
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: josordoni on January 02, 2007, 07:06:48 PM
Looks like it could be Venini, but did you look to see if its signed?
Another suggestion is Seguso Vetri D' Arte.
Javier

Hi Javier!  Happy New Year!

No signature that I can see or feel.  Its a lovely piece, and a very pretty colour.  I'd obviously like it to be a Carlo Scarpo, but there is no point in even suggesting an attribution it if it definitely is not...

Looking at Angela's Glass Museum article by Ursula Losch, it certainly looks very like the Carlo Scarpo "vaso rectangulare" shape shown. Is it known if he made in this small size ?

Can someone explain to me the basic difference between bollicine and pulegoso?
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: Sue C on January 08, 2007, 11:25:22 AM
Hiya Lynne, i still think this is a Scarpa piece.
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: josordoni on January 08, 2007, 11:43:15 AM
Hiya Sue,

I think so too, I just want to get the terminology right.  There is no doubt this is cased and one of Carlo Scarpa's developments seems to be just this cased pulegoso, which he called "sommerso a bollicine" (viz. Ursula Losch).  So is this that treatment?  And if so what is the difference between bollicine and pulegoso? Which both seem to be bubbly glass?
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: Sue C on January 08, 2007, 12:27:23 PM
Lynne, google encyclopedie des techniques it,s french but they have an english flag to click, quite interseting
  Sue x
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: Sue C on January 09, 2007, 06:22:34 PM
Lynne, did you find out the maker of your lovely little bowl?
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: josordoni on January 09, 2007, 06:57:38 PM
Lynne, did you find out the maker of your lovely little bowl?

Nobody has come along and said, no problem it's definitely X but my view from looking at countless pics is that is Venini by Carlo Scarpa.  So that is what I will assume unless I hear to the contrary.

I must get it pictured and listed!
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: josordoni on January 29, 2007, 02:24:27 PM
Lynne, google encyclopedie des techniques it,s french but they have an english flag to click, quite interseting
  Sue x

Hi sue, I checked out this link, interesting but they haven't heard of Bollicine.

Now that Paul is around, I wonder if he can cast any light on the terminology?
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: chuggy on January 29, 2007, 03:05:20 PM
Looks very much like a Scarpa piece, though normally signed and I've not seen one in this colour, only reservations.
Paul
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: josordoni on January 29, 2007, 03:33:13 PM
Hi Paul, what I am wondering is what is the difference between the term Pulegoso and the term bollicine - I can only find the term bollicine in the article in the Glass Museum, and I can't seem to find anything that tells me what the difference is?
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: Sue C on January 29, 2007, 04:04:03 PM
Hi Lynne, Bollicine is there, you have to look for bubblesw, but i dont think it shows the difference, try la repubblicarts/glass it is written by Marino Barovier, and shows some Carlo Scarpa pieces, you might get an explanation there.
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: chuggy on January 29, 2007, 08:59:24 PM
OK from Italian Glass, Murano Milan 1930-1970 defined as follows:-

Bollicine - Glass foam like in appearance with fine air bubbles created by adding wet wood or an oxygen rich compound to the melt.

Pulegoso - Glass foam like in appearance with coarse dense bubbles.

Best I can find, but hope it helps a tad.
Paul
Title: Re: Delicious lilac pulegoso dish - by anyone in particular?
Post by: josordoni on January 29, 2007, 10:31:15 PM
That's great Paul, sounds like it is the density of the bubbles.... I am gradually getting there!!