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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => Germany => Topic started by: taylog1 on January 29, 2007, 08:15:18 PM

Title: At last, a sticker = Theresienthal
Post by: taylog1 on January 29, 2007, 08:15:18 PM

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300075657932

You often see these on Ebay, but this is the first I've seen with a sticker - It's by Theresienthal, unless anyone else knows different.

taylog1

Title: Re: At last, a sticker
Post by: Ivo on January 29, 2007, 10:17:49 PM

That is most definitely not from the first half of the 20th century as the text claims; I also have some doubts if the sticker belongs to the object.
There are many different works who made nail mould vases in this style, but I've never seen one from Theresienthal. 

Title: Re: At last, a sticker
Post by: taylog1 on January 30, 2007, 06:48:22 AM

Agree not first half of the 20th century.
I'm sure they are from somewhere in Germany  - I'm talking this very specific design with the angular shape towards the base.
I've seen a lot on Ebay over the years (virtually all on the German site), but this is the first with any label or mark on.
I guess we wait for some more with labels to pop up and test the hypothesis.

Title: Re: At last, a sticker
Post by: Ivo on January 30, 2007, 08:11:37 AM

http://www.theresienthal.de/tthal/produkte/fs_produkte_1.html

check here for the traditional products from Theresienthal.

Title: Re: At last, a sticker
Post by: sph@ngw on February 02, 2007, 07:21:42 PM

Nicht wahr mein herr! I too do not think this is therisenthal either. \looks czech to me from n\ovy Bor just post war! Bohemia copy of Whitefriars. You coudl send a piccy to the Glass castle Museum in Novy Bor to see if they can help. Czech or Black Forest bavarian.

Title: Re: At last, a sticker
Post by: taylog1 on February 22, 2007, 07:17:37 PM

Interesting, there's another one just come up with the same sticker - same piece but also facetted.

  http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230095784886

I agree they look totally different to the stuff that Ivo linked to, did they maybe put their label on other factories output ?

taylog1

Title: Re: At last, a sticker
Post by: Andy on February 22, 2007, 07:48:42 PM

Hmmm! I like the faceted one ;)
Andy

Title: Re: At last, a sticker
Post by: Sklounion on February 22, 2007, 08:11:02 PM

I agree, possibly not Theresienthal, possibly still German, but I will argue, hardly an immediate post-war Czech copy of Whitefriars, (were Whitefriars making such items in the thirties?) made at Novy Bor. Whilst it is true that such fine control bubble work can be found in the Czech repertoire, the candidate factory would be Harrachov, at Novy Svet. This is where many of the controlled bubble solifleur vases, imported by the likes of Jaffe Rose, originated, and probably much dating later, from the 1960s onwards, and designed by Metelak.
 
It is no longer possible to ask the "Glass Castle" Museum at Liberec, otherwise known as the Glassexport A.S. collection, as it no longer exists as such, and the castle is now a very expensive hotel.

Regards,
Marcus

Title: Re: At last, a sticker
Post by: Frank on February 26, 2007, 11:27:25 PM

Sorry folks, the original vase is Theresienthal 769, made at nominal 20 and 30cm in 1968. In various colours, this purple is shown in their similarly designed ice bucket #782. The made other shapes and ashtrasys in the technique too.