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Glass Discussion & Research. NO IDENTIFICATION REQUESTS here please. => British & Irish Glass => Topic started by: Glen on January 31, 2007, 05:42:48 PM
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I am a newbie in this forum, so please forgive me if I say anything stupid! I know next to nothing about transfer printed tumblers.
Anyhow, my question is this: are "advertising" tumblers (well known company advertising slogan from the 1960s ish..."Cool Fresh Milk") with a Ravenhead trademark moulded onto the base worth hanging onto? Or shall I take them to the recycling place? (Only joking re. recycling - they actually have sentimental value to me so I am not ditching them).
Glen
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Best wait for Heidi or Max, as they have far more knowledge than me, but I will say that tumblers with advertising slogans are probably quite commonplace.
You may need a Max-style shed... ;D
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Thanks for your response, David.
Oh you have no idea how much glass is already stored in my house....... these tumblers are just a few that my father gave me way back. I was clearing a cupboard today and came across them. I don't collect Ravenhead tumblers of course. Oh but wait....there's that boxed set of "The Election Collection" plus the second (unboxed) set. ::) They fit into our Political Collection! (So many collections, so little space....)
Actually the thing I like most about the Milk advertising tumblers is the magnificent moulded trademark on the base.
(Don't mention the Carnival tumbler collection, which includes a whole display case full of enamelled tumblers too!)
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I only dabble in the Ravenhead stuff (typical of me!), Heidi's the one to ask really. :)
Actually, I haven't seen a Ravenhead moulded trademark before, any chance of a pic Glen? And what does the 'Election Collection' look like? Sounds interesting!
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I'm not the photographer around here - Steve's camera is waaaaay too tricksy for me :-[. I'll ask him to do a shot of both the moulded trademark and "The Election Collection" at the weekend :).
"The Election Collection" is a set of 6 tumblers with political cartoons (very satirical) on them. There's a Thatcher one, Enoch Powell and various others that I can't remember at the moment. They are wonderful.
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Advertising and milk topics are quite sought after but not usually limited by material. Specific dairies are the hottest.
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Hi, Glen.
I can't claim any great expertise here (my main interest is in the screen-printed tumblers designed by AHW), but I have seen a fair smattering of Ravenhead advertising tumblers and pint glasses on e-bay. Mainly breweries and sporting events/ football teams. There are a couple of sets of "Gotta Lotta Bottle" tumblers on at the moment - not having a garden shed, I generally pass on advertising ware, but in this case I'm actually quite tempted as I've always been tickled by the "Gotta Lotta Glottal [stops]" slogan.
I've seen the Ravenhead mark on the base of pint mugs and advertising ware, but not on other tableware designs.
I think Frank's right that the value probably depends on interest in them as advertising history. I've noticed that milk bottles with screen-printed ads on them made by United Glass Bottle/ United Glass (Ravenhead's parent company) seem to get a lot of interest - whether that's from bottle freaks or milk fiends I'm not sure! Incidentally, United Glass are still going strong as part of the US Owens-Illinois group and still have a facility in Alloa in Scotland which will screen-print your bottles for you.
I'd love to see pics of both the milk and the political sets. Would you be prepared to contribute them (suitably credited, of course) to the Sherdley /Ravenhead site currently in gestation? It'd be nice to include a few examples of this side of Ravenhead's output.
Also - I'm intrigued by your reference to enamel-decorated carnival glass - I can't quite visualise it. Are there any pics on your site? I had a quick look, but couldn't see any - possibly because I got a bit distracted by the wonderful cartoon section... :)
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Max, Frank and Heidi - many thanks for your responses.
Heidi - I remember the Gotta Lotta Bottle slogan very well. Also the "Humphrey" slogan (watch out, watch out...."). Thank you too, for all your other information. When Steve's done the pics you can see if they're good enough for your purposes - and yes, of course we'd be delighted for them to go on the Sherdley/Ravenhead site.
I do have a couple of pics on my website that show some of the enamelled Carnival tumblers. Those photos were taken a long time ago (better camera since then :)) - but they'll give you a flavour of what they look like. We have many different patterns and a variety of Carnival colours.
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/Enameled.html
Thank you all again.
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Just to let you know that I haven't forgotten about the photos - I hope to be able to post them tomorrow.
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Thanks, Glen, and belated ( :-[) thanks too for the link to the enamelled carnival glass - really interesting.
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Done them (thanks to Steve for taking the photos :)).
Here is The Election Collection
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/ElectionCollection.html
there is a second page (linked) that shows the box top and bottom too
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Here is the Cool Fresh Milk tumbler with its trademark
http://www.geocities.com/carni_glass_uk_2000/CoolFreshMilk.html
Glen
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Great photos! I think the Election tumblers are fab: I'm pretty sure they indicate a date of 1974 judging from the characters, as it suggests Labour were in power (Denis Healy clutching the Treasury bag).
Possibly the second election of 1974, after the hung parliament in February?
EDIT: Correction... must be 1979 - Harold Wilson, of course, was the Premier from 1974-76 - forgot about that ::)
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Super set.
Milk one is not a particular dairy so less likely to stir an excited crowd.
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Super set.
Milk one is not a particular dairy so less likely to stir an excited crowd.
:) Thanks David and Frank for your kind words. And no worries on the Milk tumbler. I only really brought it to everyone's attention as it sort-of shocked me that I had something that I could contribute to this forum. It hadn't dawned on me that I had Ravenhead pieces (duh :-[).
The Milk glasses are of important sentimental value to me, so of course, are priceless. I wouldn't part with them for all the tea in China (well maybe just, if it was for ALL the tea :P).
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Thanks, Glen - very much appreciated. And to Steve too - great pics, especially of the Ravenhead logo.
The election set is really great. The 79 election was the first and definitely only time I "campaigned" for a Tory victory - I knew nothing about politics, but thought the prospect of a woman prime minister was a great idea. Well, I was only 12 and my "campaigning" consisted of sticking up home-made posters around my school...
Forgive my ignorance (age, expatriate childhood and no television), but am I right in thinking they are: Ted Heath, Maggie, Enoch Powell, David Steel, Denis Healey and Jim Callaghan?
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You're spot on Heidi! :)
Glen they are super! Isn't/wasn't Cummings the political cartoonist for one of the big newspapers?
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Cummings drew for the Daily Express, along with Giles.
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Heidi and Anne - many thanks. :) And Heidi, as I said before, you're welcome to use those pics as per your request.
Re. Cummings, I did put a very useful biography link on the first photo page that I did of the Election Collection. I'll give it you here again.
http://opal.ukc.ac.uk/cartoonx-cgi/artist.py?id=34
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Hi all.
Sorry to resurrect a dead thread, but I was googling the Cummings Election Collection and ended up here.
I have a set of these glasses, although the box isn't quite as pristine as the one on the link above.
I'm not a collector, but I am interested to see whether my glasses are worth anything.
I've scoured ebay and googled but cannot find anything apart from this thread.
can anyone comment?
Regards
Blunt