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Title: Crackle glass vase with sterling silver rim
Post by: graemec on February 01, 2007, 10:48:33 AM

Hi All,

Can anyone help me identify this vase? It is crackle glass with a sterling silver rim and is 6.5cm (2.5") tall. The hallmarks on the rim indicate it was made in London in 1904? by HP&S. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4815

Title: Re: Vase?
Post by: David E on February 01, 2007, 11:18:49 AM

Hi and welcome to GMB.

As a suggestion, you might get a better response if you made the title of your posting more descriptive. Just click the 'Modify' button.

Title: Re: Crackle glass vase with sterling silver rim
Post by: Sue C on February 01, 2007, 05:17:27 PM

Any chance of a close uo of the silver mark? it might help.

Edited to add, i like silver.

Title: Re: Crackle glass vase with sterling silver rim
Post by: graemec on February 03, 2007, 07:19:31 AM

Hi Dexter,

Sorry for the delay - coming to grips with the picture posting system. This is the best I can do. I hope they are clear enough.

Kind Regards

Graeme

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-4843

Title: Re: Crackle glass vase with sterling silver rim
Post by: Sue C on February 03, 2007, 10:15:12 AM

Hi, it is definatley 1904 but still working on maker.

Title: Re: Crackle glass vase with sterling silver rim
Post by: Sue C on February 03, 2007, 01:00:03 PM

ok, the only name for the silver i have found could be a member of the Payne family (Payne & son) in London for that period, they still have a company so might be of help to you, as to the glass, a lot of glass companys sent pieces to be silver topped or edged, also individuals with a favourite piece which was damamged had silver collars put on to disguise minor chips, i know it's not much help, but some one else on the board might be of more help, at least the year and assay office is confirmed London 1904, BTW, silver collars where put on earlier pieces of glass too.
                                                   Hope iv'e been of some help ,
                                                                                    Sue.

Title: Re: Crackle glass vase with sterling silver rim
Post by: graemec on February 03, 2007, 10:54:31 PM

Hi Sue,

Thanks for that. Every little bit of information helps. The makers mark has been the hardest thing to track down. I suspected that the glass was unlikely to have been made by the maker of the rim. Anyway, the search continues.

Regards

Graeme

Title: Re: Crackle glass vase with sterling silver rim
Post by: David E on February 03, 2007, 11:17:14 PM

Much of Stourbridge glass, I'd have thought, would have used a Birmingham silversmith as the Assay office is only 15 miles away. Just a thought.

Edit: Another thought - the glass could always have been imported to London and silver-topped by the distributor?

Title: Re: Crackle glass vase with sterling silver rim
Post by: Sue C on February 04, 2007, 06:44:00 PM

Agree David, Stourbridge probably would have sent glass to the Birmingham assay office, but as to the London assay office, what glass factories were around in London at the time? ( Whitefriars,  :-\) but i am unwilling, and do not have the knowledge to say yae or nay, also, so many other factor's come in to play such as european imports  ???
glass eh! as slippery a subject as celebrities on ice  :P
Edited: because im a dunce :-\

Title: Re: Crackle glass vase with sterling silver rim
Post by: graemec on February 05, 2007, 10:33:33 AM

Hi Sue and all,

I emailed Payne & Sons and they told me they have never had that maker's mark, but believe it could be from H. Perkins & Sons of London. Can anyone provide me any information on this company? Are they still operating?

Regards

Graeme

Title: Re: Crackle glass vase with sterling silver rim
Post by: David E on February 05, 2007, 12:41:39 PM

Still around in 1932, if this was made by the same company: see item 624

http://www.woolleyandwallis.co.uk/PrintableCatalogue.aspx?Mode=1&SaleID=70

Sadly there's very little else to find. Might be easier to concentrate on IDing the glass.