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Title: Cut-Glass, Lead Crystal Vase - can somebody help?
Post by: buddybutweiser on February 06, 2007, 07:56:01 PM: Hello everyone, i know many new users keep popping the same old question to you but i was hoping somebody could offer me some advice on my inherited lead crystal vase.
All i know about it is that it was given to my grandfather about 40 or 50 years ago.
Sadly he passed away over 10 years ago but just before he died he gave it to me and told me to look after it as it will be valuable.
when i received it there was a gold oval sticker on it with the makers name on and the %of lead. Unfourtanatly it has been lost over the years. It stands 9" tall and is 5" in diameter. It is also very heavy.
Like i said before i know its a long shot but just maybe somebody may be able to tell me something about it.
Many thanks in advance

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Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: pamela on February 06, 2007, 08:48:29 PM: welcome to the board buddy! Could be helpful to know where you are situated please!
:-*
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: buddybutweiser on February 06, 2007, 08:55:53 PM: Thanks for the welcome Pamela, I live in the West Midlands, United Kingdom
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: pamela on February 06, 2007, 09:06:43 PM: good to know, buddybutweiser! I am sure someone here will be of help with your beauty! Already now I may say, it is NOT continental European - good luck!
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: buddybutweiser on February 06, 2007, 09:39:15 PM: Sorry for being Naive but is it a good thing it not been continental European :-[
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: Frank on February 06, 2007, 11:05:10 PM: Just the process of elimination... ID ing cut patterns can be tricky... as skills spread globally.
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: David E on February 07, 2007, 12:00:49 PM: Always the possibility it's Stourbridge as you're in the West Midlands (like me), but it really needs a cut-glass expert here.
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: buddybutweiser on February 07, 2007, 02:24:12 PM: Many thanks, are there many cut glass experts on this forum? If not can anyone recomend a place for me to take it to be looked at?
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: Anne on February 07, 2007, 03:15:29 PM: The foot looks interesting - can you post a photo of the pattern on that please?

The pattern looks like a daisy and button type pattern, which is often seen as pressed glass. The shield shapes are seen on many cut patterns. Thinking out loud here, I'm wondering if it's a hybrid of pressed and cut glass, if that's possible?

Have you checked the base for an acid etched mark? Sometimes these are feint and hard to see, especially where the base has been cut, but if you look closely using a magnifier in good light you may spot something - even if it's only a part-mark it may offer a clue.

It might also be helpful if we modify the subject of the thread for you to attract the attention of the cut glass people?
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: Glassic on February 07, 2007, 03:48:27 PM: I'm no expert, but would guess 30% lead. Can you put a color on that label and are you sure it was oval?
A label does not eliminate a mark on the base, have you given it a really good look over?
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: buddybutweiser on February 07, 2007, 05:57:08 PM: I really appreciate your help. All i can remember about the label is that it is gold and oval. I have tried looking for asome sort of mark but no avail although i will have a much closer look once i get my hands on a magnifying glass.
here are some more photos which may help
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http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/buddybutweiser/Picture008.jpg (http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/buddybutweiser/Picture008.jpg)
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/buddybutweiser/Picture011.jpg (http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g35/buddybutweiser/Picture011.jpg)
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: Glassic on February 07, 2007, 06:23:32 PM: Stuart labels were oval, but then so were/are? Brierley. I would start exploring those two first.
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: Frank on February 07, 2007, 09:13:04 PM: Looked in Replacements... elements found in Baccarat, Waterford, Royal Brierley and Stuart but none combining all.

The cut rim implies a presentation goblet rather than a drinking glass, was it a retirement gift? Which might narrow down the date?
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 07, 2007, 09:24:22 PM: Erm Frank, it's a tad large for a drinking glass, even for you and especially for pastis
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: buddybutweiser on February 07, 2007, 11:16:54 PM: lol :D it is a little big for that. I estimate it to weigh about 1.5kg maybe even 2kg. it was presented to my grandfather about 40 - 50 years ago by his union members (he was quite high up the ladder at the transport and general workers union). I have tried my upmost to look for a mark on the base but as the pattern faces downwards (the embossed side of the foot is nearest the table and the smooth side faces upwards) i cannot see how it could be signed there.
Title: Re: Bit of a long shot but fingers crossed somebody can help
Post by: Anne on February 08, 2007, 03:30:11 AM: Don't let the bottom being cut fool you into thinking there won't be a mark there. :) I have two Stuart bowls with cut patterns on the base outside and the mark is actually cut through so only part of it is visible!
Title: Re: Cut-Glass, Lead Crystal Vase - can somebody help?
Post by: buddybutweiser on February 08, 2007, 02:27:19 PM: ok Anne i will carry on scouring the base. any idea how small it may be?
Title: Re: Cut-Glass, Lead Crystal Vase - can somebody help?
Post by: Anne on February 09, 2007, 01:06:22 AM: It could be very very small - couple of mm high lettering even.