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Title: Amber tulip vase - Webb / Whitefriars ???
Post by: Chris Harrison on February 13, 2007, 03:11:22 PM

Can anyone put a maker to this vase, please?

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5060

Footed amber tulip-shaped.  Circular ground punty mark on the base, but no etched signature (or any trace of one ever being present).

Height 7".  Very heavy.  Vertical ribbing, slightly curled where the rim was worked.

I put it on whitefriars.com a while back, but didn't get a nibble.  I can't find any reference in any of the WF catalogues or my Stourbridge books.

Thanks,
Chris

Title: Re: Amber tulip vase - Webb / Whitefriars ???
Post by: Lustrousstone on February 13, 2007, 03:20:19 PM

That orangey amber reminds of a couple of identified Krosno jugs I have

Title: Re: Amber tulip vase - Webb / Whitefriars ???
Post by: Chris Harrison on February 13, 2007, 03:49:04 PM

Thanks, Christine.  That's interesting.

I don't think the vase is really quite as orangey as it seems in the photo.  It's more like the WF golden amber from the late 1970s (i.e. lighter than the WF 1950s golden amber and 1970s gold FLC), and a lot lighter than the toffee amber colour of the Webb Wrythen series. 

Hmm, how to describe colours...?

I forgot to say that it has quite a lot of wear on the base, so by the pricking of my thumbs I'd reckon it's 1950s or earlier.

Title: Re: Amber tulip vase - Webb / Whitefriars ???
Post by: David E on February 13, 2007, 05:17:18 PM

I have one very similar in green, but without a ground pontil. The vase effect is more like a diamond-optic:

http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5100 - vase
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5099 - detail

Not sure whether this helps.

Edit: looked at closely, I don't think they are related.

Title: Re: Amber tulip vase - Webb / Whitefriars ???
Post by: nigel benson on February 13, 2007, 08:35:17 PM

Hi,

The Amber is, I believe, Stuart & Sons. Most probably has a treacle hue, or glow, to the amber - especially when you look through the thicker areas??

The green vase I suggest is Thomas Webb & Sons - their molding, shape and colour.

Nigel

Title: Re: Amber tulip vase - Webb / Whitefriars ???
Post by: Chris Harrison on February 13, 2007, 10:28:50 PM

Thanks, Nigel.

What would you consider a treacle hue?
I'd say that this is much more Golden Syrup!  :)

The Webb Wrythen vases and bowls would have more of a treacle hue, IMO.

Title: Re: Amber tulip vase - Webb / Whitefriars ???
Post by: David E on February 13, 2007, 10:57:53 PM

Thanks Nigel. I did actually buy it hoping it was Webb, but the lack of the acid-etch stamp and no concave ground mark on the pontil did make me wonder.

Could it be Richardson, for Webb?

Title: Re: Amber tulip vase - Webb / Whitefriars ???
Post by: zidori on February 14, 2007, 07:23:58 AM

Hi, It is webb, I have had a few of these and they were put on the Whitefriars website under the section is it whitefriars? Everytime they said to me it was webb, even though there is no acid etch. Hope this is of help.