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Glass Identification - Post here for all ID requests => Glass => Topic started by: ultimatecodfather on February 22, 2007, 09:00:30 PM
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Hi all
Today i bought these two little glasses as i thought they were georgian knoped stem glasses. But i dont know for sure so any help will be apreciated. I know that its not the best picture but here goeshttp://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pid=5266&fullsize=1 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pid=5266&fullsize=1)
Cheers
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That type of bladed knopped stem on that type of foot was popular around 1825, so they could be included in the wider definition of "Georgian". But not really 18th century.
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They're nice, but also they could also be later repros. Not easy to be sure from photo.
Are they worn on the base?
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Ive brought this post back with some added pics for some more help. A friend of mines inlaws collect old glasses & he is interested in buying them as a gift for them. Only thing is im not sure of their value they are certainly old with worn bases and uneven sides & i have seen ones similar fetching good money on ebay ive posted some more pics to see if it helps.
Cheers
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pid=5447&fullsize=1 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pid=5447&fullsize=1)
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pid=5446&fullsize=1 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pid=5446&fullsize=1)
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It would still be helpful to be able to see the bottoms...........
Cat
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Ive just takenabout 40 pictures of the bases and these are the best i can get & these arent good.
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5449 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5449)
http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5448 (http://glassgallery.yobunny.org.uk/displayimage.php?pos=-5448)
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The feet are perfectly round and have been made in a clapper - a production method which came into use around 1880, the stem has been made separately and the foot has been added. This single knop tableware was probably produced between 1870 and 1930, give and take a few years. Very similar items are found in the Holmegaard and Aalborg catalogues of that period - which serve as an identifyer for tableware produced elsewhere.
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Pretty much all of the Danish glassworks were producing very similar snapse glasses from around 1850 - 1950. Holmegaard were still making them into the 1970s/80s.
I would agree that they're pre-1920/30, though.
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I asume that they will not be of significant value then?
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UCF — last year I bought a small collection of books on early glasses, and your query gave me the excuse to have a look through them.
While I could not find a precise match, there were several glasses quite similar. However, the proportions of all these 18th- and early 19th-century glasses were quite different. All had a foot diameter around 25% to 40% larger.
I also looked up "Georgian". It is strictly the accession of George I in 1714 until the death of George IV in 1820.
Hope that helps.
Bernard C. 8)
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Good point - I looked closely through my Danish references, and pretty much all of the glasses in this form pre-1885 have significantly larger feet in proportion to the glasses.
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UCF — While your friend's in-laws could be touchy about deceptive repro, there is no question of that with this attractive pair. They are just nice old-style hand-made glasses, around 100 years old give or take a decade or two. The sort of glasses they could quite happily use.
A local estate agent buys all my unwanted glasses, particularly unattributable pressed and partly-pressed rummers. He uses them at parties. Everyone gets their own individual glass, and there are jugs of water and old ice buckets at strategic locations for those wishing to change drinks to rinse their glass. Works a treat and saves on the washing up. People love drinking from antique glasses.
Bernard C. 8)
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Cheers for the help folks
Ian